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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, tytso@mit.edu, djwong@us.ibm.com,
shli@kernel.org, neilb@suse.de, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
jack@suse.cz, snitzer@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kmannth@us.ibm.com, cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
rwheeler@redhat.com, hch@lst.de, josef@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] block: reimplement FLUSH/FUA to support merge
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:19:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110121191920.GJ12072@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110121185617.GI12072@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 01:56:17PM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 04:59:58PM +0100, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> [..]
> > + * The actual execution of flush is double buffered. Whenever a request
> > + * needs to execute PRE or POSTFLUSH, it queues at
> > + * q->flush_queue[q->flush_pending_idx]. Once certain criteria are met, a
> > + * flush is issued and the pending_idx is toggled. When the flush
> > + * completes, all the requests which were pending are proceeded to the next
> > + * step. This allows arbitrary merging of different types of FLUSH/FUA
> > + * requests.
> > + *
> > + * Currently, the following conditions are used to determine when to issue
> > + * flush.
> > + *
> > + * C1. At any given time, only one flush shall be in progress. This makes
> > + * double buffering sufficient.
> > + *
> > + * C2. Flush is not deferred if any request is executing DATA of its
> > + * sequence. This avoids issuing separate POSTFLUSHes for requests
> > + * which shared PREFLUSH.
>
> Tejun, did you mean "Flush is deferred" instead of "Flush is not deferred"
> above?
>
> IIUC, C2 might help only if requests which contain data are also going to
> issue postflush. Couple of cases come to mind.
>
> - If queue supports FUA, I think we will not issue POSTFLUSH. In that
> case issuing next PREFLUSH which data is in flight might make sense.
>
> - Even if queue does not support FUA and we are only getting requests
> with REQ_FLUSH then also waiting for data requests to finish before
> issuing next FLUSH might not help.
>
> - Even if queue does not support FUA and say we have a mix of REQ_FUA
> and REQ_FLUSH, then this will help only if in a batch we have more
> than 1 request which is going to issue POSTFLUSH and those postflush
> will be merged.
>
> - Ric Wheeler was once mentioning that there are boxes which advertise
> writeback cache but are battery backed so they ignore flush internally and
> signal completion immediately. I am not sure how prevalent those
> cases are but I think waiting for data to finish will delay processing
> of new REQ_FLUSH requests in pending queue for such array. There
> we will not anyway benefit from merging of FLUSH.
>
> Given that C2 is going to benefit primarily only if queue does not support
> FUA and we have many requets with REQ_FUA set, will it make sense to
> put additional checks for C2. Atleast a simple queue support FUA
> check might help.
Reading through the blk_insert_flush() bit more, looks like pure REQ_FUA
requests will not even show up in data list if queue supports FUA. But
IIUC requests with both REQ_FLUSH and REQ_FUA set will still show up even if
queue supports FUA.
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-21 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-21 15:59 [PATCHSET] " Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: add REQ_FLUSH_SEQ Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] block: improve flush bio completion Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] block: reimplement FLUSH/FUA to support merge Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 18:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-01-21 19:19 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2011-01-23 10:25 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-23 10:29 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-24 20:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-25 10:21 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 11:39 ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-23 23:37 ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-25 22:56 ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-22 0:49 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-23 10:31 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 20:46 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-01-25 21:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-23 10:48 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 20:41 ` [KNOWN BUGGY RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests Mike Snitzer
2011-01-25 21:55 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-26 5:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests -- was never BUGGY relative to upstream Mike Snitzer
2011-01-26 10:03 ` [KNOWN BUGGY RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests Tejun Heo
2011-01-26 10:05 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 17:38 ` [RFC " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-01 18:52 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 22:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 21:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-02 22:06 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 22:55 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] block: skip elevator data " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03 9:28 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-03 14:48 ` [PATCH v4 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 " Jens Axboe
2011-02-03 13:38 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-04 15:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-04 15:08 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-04 16:58 ` [PATCH v5 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03 14:54 ` [PATCH v3 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-01 22:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] block: share request flush fields with elevator_private Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 21:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-03 9:24 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-11 10:08 ` Jens Axboe
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