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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, tytso@mit.edu, shli@kernel.org, neilb@suse.de,
	adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, jack@suse.cz, snitzer@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kmannth@us.ibm.com, cmm@us.ibm.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, rwheeler@redhat.com, hch@lst.de,
	josef@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] block: reimplement FLUSH/FUA to support merge
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:21:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110125102128.GO27510@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110124203155.GA32261@tux1.beaverton.ibm.com>

Hello, Darrick.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:31:55PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > So, I think it's better to start with something simple and improve it
> > with actual testing.  If the current simple implementation can match
> > Darrick's previous numbers, let's first settle the mechanisms.  We can
> 
> Yep, the fsync-happy numbers more or less match... at least for 2.6.37:
> http://tinyurl.com/4q2xeao

Good to hear.  Thanks for the detailed testing.

> I'll give 2.6.38-rc2 a try later, though -rc1 didn't boot for me, so these
> numbers are based on a backport to .37. :(

Well, there hasn' been any change in the area during the merge window
anyway, so I think testing on 2.6.37 should be fine.

> > I don't really think we should design the whole thing around broken
> > devices which incorrectly report writeback cache when it need not.
> > The correct place to work around that is during device identification
> > not in the flush logic.
> 
> elm3a4_sas and elm3c71_extsas advertise writeback cache yet the
> flush completion times are suspiciously low.  I suppose it could be
> useful to disable flushes to squeeze out that last bit of
> performance, though I don't know how one goes about querying the
> disk array to learn if there's a battery behind the cache.  I guess
> the current mechanism (admin knob that picks a safe default) is good
> enough.

Yeap, that or a blacklist of devices which lie.

Jens, what do you think?  If you don't object, let's put this through
linux-next.

Thank you.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-25 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-21 15:59 [PATCHSET] " Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: add REQ_FLUSH_SEQ Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] block: improve flush bio completion Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 15:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] block: reimplement FLUSH/FUA to support merge Tejun Heo
2011-01-21 18:56   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-01-21 19:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-01-23 10:25     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-23 10:29       ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-24 20:31       ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-25 10:21         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-25 11:39           ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-23 23:37             ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-25 22:56           ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-01-22  0:49   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-23 10:31     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 20:46       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-01-25 21:04         ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-23 10:48   ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 20:41   ` [KNOWN BUGGY RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests Mike Snitzer
2011-01-25 21:55     ` Mike Snitzer
2011-01-26  5:27       ` [RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests -- was never BUGGY relative to upstream Mike Snitzer
2011-01-26 10:03     ` [KNOWN BUGGY RFC PATCH 4/3] block: skip elevator initialization for flush requests Tejun Heo
2011-01-26 10:05       ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 17:38       ` [RFC " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-01 18:52         ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 22:46           ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 21:51             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-02 22:06               ` Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 22:55             ` [PATCH v3 1/2] block: skip elevator data " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03  9:28               ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-03 14:48                 ` [PATCH v4 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03 13:24               ` [PATCH v3 " Jens Axboe
2011-02-03 13:38                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-04 15:04                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-04 15:08                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-04 16:58                     ` [PATCH v5 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-03 14:54                 ` [PATCH v3 " Mike Snitzer
2011-02-01 22:46           ` [PATCH v2 2/2] block: share request flush fields with elevator_private Mike Snitzer
2011-02-02 21:52             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-02-03  9:24             ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-11 10:08             ` Jens Axboe

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