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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86-ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Willy Tarreau <wtarreau@hera.kernel.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@infradead.org>,
	Dirk.Hohndel@intel.com, IDE-ML <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:49:05 +0100
Message-ID: <20110125144905.GC27510@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110125134748.GA10051@laptop>

Hello,

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:47:48PM +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> The main problem, it seems, is that the BIOS "Reset controller" command is not
> enough to restore disk hardware to a state understandable by the BIOS code.

I doubt many BIOSen would implement this properly.  It's something no
one ever uses and modern controllers have a lot more states and are
more complex to reset.

>  - Is it possible to re-initialize the disk hardware to its POST
>    state (thus make the BIOS services work reliably) while keeping
>    system RAM unmodified?

I'm afraid this can't be made reliable.  Nobody uses it and the stuff
we do during pci initialization is enough to leave some BIOSen
clueless.

>  - If not, can we do it manually by reprogramming the controllers?

It would be only theoretically possible.  We'll basically have to
write deinitialization routine for different controllers, which of
course would be super-cold path and not many people would test.

I'm afraid this is gonna be something which works sometimes (or even
more times than not) but can't ever be made reliable.  I think it
would be better to head toward usb or other kind of early console.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply index

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-25 13:47 Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 13:51 ` [PATCH -next 1/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Switch to real-mode and call BIOS Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 13:53 ` [PATCH -next 2/2][RFC] x86: Saveoops: Reserve low memory and register code Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:29   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  9:04     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 14:09 ` [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon panic Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 15:08   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-25 17:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26 11:44       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-02-03 14:36     ` Pavel Machek
2011-02-03 15:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-03 17:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-03 21:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 15:36   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 16:02     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 17:05       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2011-01-25 17:20         ` James Bottomley
2011-01-25 22:10         ` Mark Lord
2011-01-25 22:16           ` Randy Dunlap
2011-01-25 22:45             ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 22:58               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-26  0:26                 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-31  2:59                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-01-31 10:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-25 17:32     ` Tony Luck
2011-01-25 17:36       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-25 19:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2011-01-25 14:49 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-28  7:59   ` Jan Ceuleers
2011-01-25 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <20110126124954.GC24527@laptop>
2011-01-26 23:07     ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]       ` <20110126231620.GA14807@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53019438EB02@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]           ` <20110126233033.GB14807@redhat.com>
     [not found]             ` <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D53019438EBB6@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]               ` <4D40F7F1.3020509@zytor.com>
     [not found]                 ` <20110127120039.GD20279@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:35                   ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]                   ` <4D4197CB.9070201@zytor.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20110127162429.GB26437@elte.hu>
2011-01-27 18:56                       ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]     ` <20110127021338.GA20334@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <4D40F81E.1030009@zytor.com>
     [not found]         ` <20110127052639.GA16289@laptop>
     [not found]           ` <m1sjweyeax.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
2011-02-02 11:13             ` Ahmed S. Darwish

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