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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, npiggin@kernel.dk,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Provide control over unmapped pages (v4)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:07:08 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110131043708.GF5054@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110131085853.b09aef2d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
* KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2011-01-31 08:58:53]:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:20:02 -0600 (CST)
> Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> >
> > > > > I see it as a tradeoff of when to check? add_to_page_cache or when we
> > > > > are want more free memory (due to allocation). It is OK to wakeup
> > > > > kswapd while allocating memory, somehow for this purpose (global page
> > > > > cache), add_to_page_cache or add_to_page_cache_locked does not seem
> > > > > the right place to hook into. I'd be open to comments/suggestions
> > > > > though from others as well.
> > >
> > > I don't like add hook here.
> > > AND I don't want to run kswapd because 'kswapd' has been a sign as
> > > there are memory shortage. (reusing code is ok.)
> > >
> > > How about adding new daemon ? Recently, khugepaged, ksmd works for
> > > managing memory. Adding one more daemon for special purpose is not
> > > very bad, I think. Then, you can do
> > > - wake up without hook
> > > - throttle its work.
> > > - balance the whole system rather than zone.
> > > I think per-node balance is enough...
> >
> >
> > I think we already have enough kernel daemons floating around. They are
> > multiplying in an amazing way. What would be useful is to map all
> > the memory management background stuff into a process. May call this memd
> > instead? Perhaps we can fold khugepaged into kswapd as well etc.
> >
>
> Making kswapd slow for whis "additional", "requested by user, not by system"
> work is good thing ? I think workqueue works enough well, it's scale based on
> workloads, if using thread is bad.
>
Making it slow is a generic statement, kswapd
is supposed to do background reclaim, in this case a special request
for unmapped pages, specifically and deliberately requested by the
admin via a boot option.
--
Three Cheers,
Balbir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-31 9:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-25 5:10 [PATCH 1/2] Refactor zone_reclaim code (v4) Balbir Singh
2011-01-25 5:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] Provide control over unmapped pages (v4) Balbir Singh
2011-01-26 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-01-26 17:43 ` Balbir Singh
2011-01-26 23:12 ` Minchan Kim
2011-01-28 2:56 ` Balbir Singh
2011-01-28 5:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-01-28 6:48 ` Balbir Singh
2011-01-28 7:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-01-28 7:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-01-28 8:19 ` Balbir Singh
2011-01-28 8:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-01-28 12:02 ` Balbir Singh
2011-01-28 15:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-01-30 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-01-31 4:37 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2011-01-28 11:18 ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-10 5:33 ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-10 5:41 ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-13 17:33 ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-16 23:45 ` Minchan Kim
2011-01-25 5:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] Refactor zone_reclaim code (v4) Balbir Singh
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