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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mm-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au, mhocko@suse.cz
Subject: Re: mmotm 2015-01-22-15-04: qemu failure due to 'mm: memcontrol: remove unnecessary soft limit tree node test'
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:37:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150126133712.GB9738@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <109548.1422221788@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 04:36:28PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 02:16:23 -0500, Johannes Weiner said:
> 
> > I would generally agree, but this code, which implements a userspace
> > interface, is already grotesquely inefficient and heavyhanded.  It's
> > also superseded in the next release, so we can just keep this simple
> > at this point.
> 
> Wait, what?  Userspace interface that's superceded in the next release?

The existing interface and its implementation are going to remain in
place, obviously, we can't break userspace.  But the semantics are
ill-defined and the implementation bad to a point where we decided to
fix both by adding a second interface and encouraging users to switch.

Now if a user were to report that these off-node allocations are
actually creating problems in real life I would fix it.  But I'm
fairly certain that remote access costs are overshadowed by the
reclaim stalls this mechanism creates.

So what I was trying to say above is that I don't see a point in
complicating the v1 implementation for a questionable minor
optimization when v2 is already being added to address much more
severe shortcomings in v1.

      reply	other threads:[~2015-01-26 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-22 23:05 mmotm 2015-01-22-15-04 uploaded akpm
2015-01-23  5:04 ` mmotm 2015-01-22-15-04: qemu failures due to 'mm: account pmd page tables to the process' Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 11:13   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-23 15:07     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 21:55       ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-24  2:44         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-24  3:05           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-24  5:52         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-26 12:29           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-26 14:03             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-26 14:17               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-27 16:16               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-01-27 16:24                 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-27 21:24                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-01-28  6:16                     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23  5:08 ` mmotm 2015-01-22-15-04: qemu failure due to 'mm: memcontrol: remove unnecessary soft limit tree node test' Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 14:18   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-23 15:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-23 16:02       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-23 16:59         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 17:36           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-23 17:38             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-24  2:02             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-27 17:24       ` Michal Hocko
2015-01-28 15:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-23 15:46     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 16:03       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-23 20:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-23 20:33       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-01-23 21:09         ` Christoph Lameter
2015-01-24  7:16           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-01-25 21:36             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-01-26 13:37               ` Johannes Weiner [this message]

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