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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>,
	Sun Paul <paulrbk@gmail.com>,
	linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tuexen@fh-muenster.de
Subject: Re: Fwd: Question on SCTP ABORT chunk is generated when the association_max_retrans is reached
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:47:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150126134727.GC31293@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54C2935F.2000105@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 01:30:55PM -0500, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
> On 01/23/2015 12:10 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > On 01/23/2015 05:05 PM, Vlad Yasevich wrote:
> >> On 01/23/2015 06:50 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >>> On 01/23/2015 11:25 AM, Sun Paul wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>>> I would like to check the behave in LKSCTP.
> >>>>
> >>>> we are running DIAMETER message over SCTP, and we have set the
> >>>> parameter "net.sctp.association_max_retrans = 4" in the LinuxOS.
> >>>>
> >>>> We noticed that when remote peer have retry to send the same request
> >>>> for 4 times, the LKSCTP will initiate an ABORT chunk with reason
> >>>> "association exceeded its max_retrans count".
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to know whether this is the correct behavior? is there
> >>>> any other option that we can alter in order to avoid the ABORT chunk
> >>>> being sent?
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall the RFC saying to send an ABORT, but let me double
> >>> check in the mean time.
> >>
> >> The RFC is silent on the matter.  The abort got added in 3.8 so
> >> it's been there for a while.
> > 
> > I see, commit de4594a51c90 ("sctp: send abort chunk when max_retrans
> > exceeded") added the behaviour.
> > 
> >>> Hmm, untested, but could you try something like that?
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/net/sctp/sm_sideeffect.c b/net/sctp/sm_sideeffect.c
> >>> index fef2acd..5ce198d 100644
> >>> --- a/net/sctp/sm_sideeffect.c
> >>> +++ b/net/sctp/sm_sideeffect.c
> >>> @@ -584,7 +584,8 @@ static void sctp_cmd_assoc_failed(sctp_cmd_seq_t *commands,
> >>>           sctp_add_cmd_sf(commands, SCTP_CMD_EVENT_ULP,
> >>>                   SCTP_ULPEVENT(event));
> >>>
> >>> -    if (asoc->overall_error_count >= asoc->max_retrans) {
> >>> +    if (asoc->overall_error_count >= asoc->max_retrans &&
> >>> +        error != SCTP_ERROR_NO_ERROR) {
> >>>           abort = sctp_make_violation_max_retrans(asoc, chunk);
> >>>           if (abort)
> >>>               sctp_add_cmd_sf(commands, SCTP_CMD_REPLY,
> >>
> >> This would pretty much stop all ABORTs due to excessive rtx.  Might
> >> as well take the code out :).
> >>
> >> I was a bit concerned about this ABORT when it went in.
> > 
> > So effectively, if I understand the argument from the commit, the
> > assumption is that the ABORT would never reach the peer anyway, but
> > is a way for tcpdump users to see on the wire that rtx limit has
> > been exceeded and since there's not mentioned anything in the RFC
> > about this, it doesn't break it. Hm.
> > 
> 
> Additionally I seem to recall BSD sending this type of ABORT for pretty
> much the same reason.
> 
> -vlad
> 
IIRC, BSD is where this patch came from initially.
Neil

> > Sun Paul, what exactly broke in your scenario? Can you be more explicit?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Daniel
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-26 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAFXGftKp3=OfjkCVBuR-zM3+uZ42Sk_9i2UjAHBNnbX=hQJwpA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-23 10:25 ` Sun Paul
2015-01-23 11:50   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-23 16:05     ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-01-23 17:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-23 18:30         ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-01-23 18:36           ` Michael Tuexen
2015-01-26 13:47           ` Neil Horman [this message]
2015-01-23 18:36         ` Michael Tuexen
2015-01-23 19:05           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-26  1:27             ` Sun Paul
2015-01-26 11:46               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-01-26 13:17                 ` Sun Paul
2015-01-26 13:30                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-23 16:08   ` Fwd: " Vlad Yasevich

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