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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
Yalin.Wang@sonymobile.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: throttle MADV_FREE
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:43:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150224154318.GA14939@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1424765897-27377-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>
On Tue 24-02-15 17:18:14, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Recently, Shaohua reported that MADV_FREE is much slower than
> MADV_DONTNEED in his MADV_FREE bomb test. The reason is many of
> applications went to stall with direct reclaim since kswapd's
> reclaim speed isn't fast than applications's allocation speed
> so that it causes lots of stall and lock contention.
I am not sure I understand this correctly. So the issue is that there is
huge number of MADV_FREE on the LRU and they are not close to the tail
of the list so the reclaim has to do a lot of work before it starts
dropping them?
> This patch throttles MADV_FREEing so it works only if there
> are enough pages in the system which will not trigger backgroud/
> direct reclaim. Otherwise, MADV_FREE falls back to MADV_DONTNEED
> because there is no point to delay freeing if we know system
> is under memory pressure.
Hmm, this is still conforming to the documentation because the kernel is
free to free pages at its convenience. I am not sure this is a good
idea, though. Why some MADV_FREE calls should be treated differently?
Wouldn't that lead to hard to predict behavior? E.g. LIFO reused blocks
would work without long stalls most of the time - except when there is a
memory pressure.
Comparison to MADV_DONTNEED is not very fair IMHO because the scope of the
two calls is different.
> When I test the patch on my 3G machine + 12 CPU + 8G swap,
> test: 12 processes
>
> loop = 5;
> mmap(512M);
Who is eating the rest of the memory?
> while (loop--) {
> memset(512M);
> madvise(MADV_FREE or MADV_DONTNEED);
> }
>
> 1) dontneed: 6.78user 234.09system 0:48.89elapsed
> 2) madvfree: 6.03user 401.17system 1:30.67elapsed
> 3) madvfree + this ptach: 5.68user 113.42system 0:36.52elapsed
>
> It's clearly win.
>
> Reported-by: Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
I don't know. This looks like a hack with hard to predict consequences
which might trigger pathological corner cases.
> ---
> mm/madvise.c | 13 +++++++++++--
> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> index 6d0fcb8921c2..81bb26ecf064 100644
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -523,8 +523,17 @@ madvise_vma(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct **prev,
> * XXX: In this implementation, MADV_FREE works like
> * MADV_DONTNEED on swapless system or full swap.
> */
> - if (get_nr_swap_pages() > 0)
> - return madvise_free(vma, prev, start, end);
> + if (get_nr_swap_pages() > 0) {
> + unsigned long threshold;
> + /*
> + * If we have trobule with memory pressure(ie,
> + * under high watermark), free pages instantly.
> + */
> + threshold = min_free_kbytes >> (PAGE_SHIFT - 10);
> + threshold = threshold + (threshold >> 1);
Why threshold += threshold >> 1 ?
> + if (nr_free_pages() > threshold)
> + return madvise_free(vma, prev, start, end);
> + }
> /* passthrough */
> case MADV_DONTNEED:
> return madvise_dontneed(vma, prev, start, end);
> --
> 1.9.1
>
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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-24 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 8:18 Minchan Kim
2015-02-24 8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm: change deactivate_page with deactivate_file_page Minchan Kim
2015-02-24 8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] mm: move lazy free pages to inactive list Minchan Kim
2015-02-24 16:14 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-25 0:27 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-25 15:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-24 8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] mm: support MADV_FREE in swapless system Minchan Kim
2015-02-24 16:51 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-25 1:41 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-24 15:43 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-02-24 22:54 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: throttle MADV_FREE Shaohua Li
2015-02-25 14:13 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-25 0:08 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-25 7:11 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-25 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-25 18:37 ` Shaohua Li
2015-02-26 0:42 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-26 19:04 ` Shaohua Li
2015-02-27 3:37 ` [RFC] mm: change mm_advise_free to clear page dirty Wang, Yalin
2015-02-27 5:28 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-27 5:48 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-27 6:44 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-27 7:50 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-27 13:37 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-28 13:50 ` Minchan Kim
2015-03-02 1:59 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-03-03 0:42 ` Minchan Kim
2015-02-27 21:02 ` Michal Hocko
2015-02-28 2:11 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-02-28 6:01 ` [RFC V2] " Wang, Yalin
2015-03-02 12:38 ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-03 2:06 ` [RFC V3] " Wang, Yalin
2015-02-28 13:55 ` [RFC] " Minchan Kim
2015-03-02 1:53 ` Wang, Yalin
2015-03-02 12:33 ` Michal Hocko
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