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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Clark Williams" <williams@redhat.com>,
linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
"Mike Galbraith" <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@purestorage.com>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2] sched/rt: Use IPI to trigger RT task push migration instead of pulling
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:43:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150226074301.0db88af3@grimm.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150226074559.GP21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:45:59 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:50:15PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > It can't be used for state?
> >
> > If one CPU writes "zero", and the other CPU wants to decide if the
> > system is in the state to do something, isn't a rmb() fine to use?
> >
> >
> > CPU 1:
> >
> > x = 0;
> > /* Tell other CPUs they can now do something */
> > smp_wmb();
> >
> > CPU 2:
> > /* Make sure we see current state of x */
> > smp_rmb();
> > if (x == 0)
> > do_something();
> >
> > The above situation is not acceptable?
>
> Acceptable is just not the word. It plain doesn't work that way.
Thinking about this more, is it because a wmb just forces the CPU to
write everything before this before it writes anything after it. That
is, the writes themselves can happen at a much later time. Does a plain
mb() work the same way if there are no reads required?
>
> > Otherwise, we fail to be able to do_something() when it is perfectly
> > fine to do so.
>
> Can't be helped.
What about using atomic_t?
Note, my latest code doesn't have any of this, but I just want to
understand the semantics of these operations a bit better.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-26 12:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-24 18:39 Steven Rostedt
2015-02-24 18:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-24 21:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-25 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 15:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-25 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 17:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 17:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-26 7:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 12:43 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2015-02-26 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 14:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-26 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-26 12:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-25 7:56 Hillf Danton
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