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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	"Peter Crosthwaite" <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/16] Introduce probe mode for machine type none
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 16:19:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150304191925.GD13041@thinpad.lan.raisama.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150303115524.40bd40b0@bee>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 11:55:24AM +0100, Michael Mueller wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 17:57:01 +0100
> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > Am 02.03.2015 um 17:43 schrieb Michael Mueller:
> > > On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:57:21 +0100
> > > Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > >>>  int configure_accelerator(MachineState *ms)
> > >>>  {
> > >>> -    const char *p;
> > >>> +    const char *p, *name;
> > >>>      char buf[10];
> > >>>      int ret;
> > >>>      bool accel_initialised = false;
> > >>>      bool init_failed = false;
> > >>>      AccelClass *acc = NULL;
> > >>> +    ObjectClass *oc;
> > >>> +    bool probe_mode = false;
> > >>>  
> > >>>      p = qemu_opt_get(qemu_get_machine_opts(), "accel");
> > >>>      if (p == NULL) {
> > >>> -        /* Use the default "accelerator", tcg */
> > >>> -        p = "tcg";
> > >>> +        oc = (ObjectClass *) MACHINE_GET_CLASS(current_machine);
> > >>> +        name = object_class_get_name(oc);
> > >>> +        probe_mode = !strcmp(name, "none" TYPE_MACHINE_SUFFIX);
> > >>> +        if (probe_mode) {
> > >>> +            /* Use these accelerators in probe mode, tcg should be last */
> > >>> +            p = probe_mode_accels;
> > >>> +        } else {
> > >>> +            /* Use the default "accelerator", tcg */
> > >>> +            p = "tcg";
> > >>> +        }
> > >>>      }  
> > >>
> > >> Can't we instead use an explicit ,accel=probe or ,accel=auto?
> > >> That would then obsolete the next patch.
> > > 
> > > How would you express the following with the accel=<pseudo-accel> approach?
> > > 
> > > -probe -machine s390-ccw,accel=kvm 
> > > 
> > > Using machine "none" as default with tcg as last accelerator initialized should not break
> > > anything.
> > > 
> > > -M none
> > 
> > Let me ask differently: What does -machine none or -M none have to do
> > with probing? It reads as if you are introducing two probe modes. Why do
> 
> The machine none? nothing directly, I guess. What are real world use cases for that
> machine type?
> 
> > you need both? If we have -probe, isn't that independent of which
> 
> It is just two different means to switch on the same mode.
> 
> > machine we specify? Who is going to call either, with which respective goal?
> 
> -probe itself would be sufficient but I currently do not want to enforce the use of
> a new parameter. Best would be not to have that mode at all if possible. 
> 
> The intended use case is driven by management interfaces that need to draw decisions
> on, in this particular case runnable cpu models, with information originated by qemu.
> 
> Let me walk through Eduardo's suggestion first and crosscheck it with my requirements
> before we enter in a maybe afterwards obsolete discussion.

I have been working on some changes to implement x86 CPU probing code
that creates accel objects on the fly, that may be useful. See:
  https://github.com/ehabkost/qemu-hacks/tree/work/user-accel-init

Especially the commit:
  kvm: Move /dev/kvm opening/closing to open/close methods

The next steps I plan are:
 * Create AccelState object on TCG too, and somehow pass it as argument
   to cpu_x86_init()
 * Change all kvm_enabled() occurrences on target-i386/cpu.c to use
   the provided accel object (including
   x86_cpu_get_supported_feature_word() and x86_cpu_filter_features())
 * Use the new
   x86_cpu_get_supported_feature_word()/x86_cpu_filter_features() code
   to implement a is_runnable(X86CPUClass*, AccelState*) check
 * Use the new is_runnable() check to extend query-cpu-definitions for x86 too
 * Add -cpu string and machine-type arguments to the is_runnable() check

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-04 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-02 12:43 [PATCH v3 00/16] s390x cpu model implementation Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] Introduce probe mode for machine type none Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 13:57   ` Andreas Färber
2015-03-02 16:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 16:57       ` Andreas Färber
2015-03-03 10:55         ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-04 19:19           ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2015-03-05 14:56             ` Michael Mueller
2015-03-05 15:07               ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-02 19:17   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-03 10:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] Introduce option --probe to switch into probe mode Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] Introduce stub routine cpu_desc_avail Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] target-s390x: Introduce cpu facilities Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] target-s390x: Generate facility defines per cpu model Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] target-s390x: Introduce cpu models Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] target-s390x: Define cpu model specific facility lists Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] target-s390x: Add cpu model alias definition routines Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] target-s390x: Update linux-headers/asm-s390/kvm.h Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] target-s390x: Add KVM VM attribute interface for cpu models Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] target-s390x: Add cpu class initialization routines Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] target-s390x: Prepare accelerator during cpu object realization Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] target-s390x: New QMP command query-cpu-model Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] target-s390x: Extend QMP command query-cpu-definitions Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 19:11   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-03-04  9:00     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] target-s390x: Introduce facility test routine Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 12:44 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] target-s390x: Enable cpu model usage Michael Mueller
2015-03-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] s390x cpu model implementation Eduardo Habkost

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