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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
"alan@linux.intel.com" <alan@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Len.Brown@intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Bypass legacy PIC and PIT on ACPI hardware reduced platform
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 21:11:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150304201102.GA6530@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54F71888.4040608@linux.intel.com>
* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On 3/4/2015 1:50 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 12:43:08AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Using 'acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware' flag outside the ACPI code
> >>>is a mistake.
> >>
> >>ideally, the presence of that flag in the firmware table will clear/set more global settings,
> >>for example, having that flag should cause the 8042 input code to not probe for the 8042.
> >>
> >>for interrupts, there really ought to be a "apic first/only" mode, which is then used on
> >>all modern systems (not just hw reduced).
> >
> >Do we need some sort of platform-specific querying interfaces now too,
> >similar to cpu_has()? I.e., platform_has()...
> >
> > if (platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_REDUCED_HW))
> > do stuff..
>
> more like
>
> platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_PIT)
>
> etc, one for each legacy io item
Precisely. The main problem is the generic, 'lumps everything
together' nature of the acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware flag.
(Like the big kernel lock lumped together all sorts of locking rules
and semantics.)
Properly split out, feature-ish or driver-ish interfaces for PIT and
other legacy details are the proper approach to 'turn them off'.
- x86_platform is a function pointer driven, driver-ish interface.
- platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_IT) is a flag driven, feature-flag-ish
interface.
Both are fine - for something as separate as the PIT (or the PIC) it
might make more sense to go towards a 'driver' interface though, as
modern drivers are (and will be) much different from the legacy PIT.
Whichever method is used, low level platforms can just switch them
on/off in their enumeration/detection routines, while the generic code
will have them enabled by default.
> so we can clear it on hw reduced, but also in other cases. hw
> reduced is one way, but I'd be surprised if there weren't other ways
> (like quirks) where we'd want to do the same things
Exactly. The key step is the proper, clean separation out of hardware
interfaces.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-04 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-04 3:23 Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 5:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 5:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 5:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 6:04 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 8:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-03-04 9:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-04 14:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 14:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-04 14:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 20:21 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-04 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-05 11:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-05 16:05 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-04 14:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-03-04 20:11 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-03-05 11:13 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-05 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05 12:42 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-05 16:06 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-09 23:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-10 8:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-11 4:14 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 20:18 ` Alan Cox
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