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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	Marek Belisko <marek@goldelico.com>,
	Benoit Cousson <bcousson@baylibre.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov@gmail.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/6] Documentation: DT: Document twl4030-madc-battery bindings
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:26:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150331072643.GB30788@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150311164442.GA5264@atomide.com>

Hi!

> > >> +		io-channels = <&twl_madc 1>,
> > >> +	                      <&twl_madc 10>,
> > >> +			      <&twl_madc 12>;
> > >> +		io-channel-names = "temp",
> > >> +		                   "ichg",
> > >> +		                   "vbat";
> > >> +	};
> > > 
> > > Rather than just making platform_data into device tree properties..
> > > 
> > > Can't you hide the these custom properties behind the compatible flag?
> > > 
> > > You can initialize that data in the driver based on the compatible
> > > flag and the match data.
> > > 
> > > This makes sense if you can group things to similar configurations.
> > 
> > Maybe I have not completely understood your proposal.
> > 
> > Do you mean to go back to have big parameter tables for each device/battery
> > combination in the driver code and the compatible flag (e.g. compatible = “board17”)
> > chooses the right data set for the charging map and channels?
> 
> If you can somehow group them, then yes. Not for every board if there
> are many of them naturally.
>  
> > I thought this is what the DT was introduced for - to have the same driver 
> > code but adapt to different boards depending on hardware variations.
> 
> Yeah but you also need to consider the issues related to introducing
> new device tree properties. The device tree properties introduced
> should be generic where possible.
> 
> > And batteries have very different characteristics and vary between devices…
> 
> Right. Maybe that has been already agreed on to use capacity-uah for
> batteries in general? In that case I have not problem with that as
> it's a generic property :)
>  
> > The charging maps are depending on the battery type connected to the twl4030
> > and which madc channel is which value is also a little hardware dependent
> > (although the twl4030 doesn’t give much choice).
> 
> Just to consider alternatives before introducing driver specific
> property for the maps.. Maybe here you could have few different type
> of maps and select something safe by default? Of course it could be this
> is higly board specific, I think some devices may be able to run below
> 3.3V for example..

As I explained in some other mail, those tables should not be
neccessary at all. They can be computed from li-ion characteristics
and internal resistance, and assumed current during charge and
discharge.

Running below 3.3V.. not really. At that point, the battery is really
_empty_, and voltage is going down really really fast.

Plus, you are damaging the battery at that point.
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-10 21:27 [PATCH v4 0/6] Convert twl4030_madc_battery to IIO consumer and add DT aupport Marek Belisko
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] power: twl4030-madc-battery: Convert to iio consumer Marek Belisko
2015-04-06 17:39   ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] power: twl4030_madc_battery: Add device tree support Marek Belisko
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] Documentation: DT: Document twl4030-madc-battery bindings Marek Belisko
2015-03-11 15:24   ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-11 16:16     ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-11 16:44       ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-11 17:13         ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-11 17:43           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-11 19:36             ` Sebastian Reichel
2015-03-11 19:37               ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-31  7:26         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-04-01  8:18           ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-04-01 20:16             ` Pavel Machek
2015-04-01 20:39               ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-04-04  8:16                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-04-04  9:46                   ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-04-01 16:30   ` Rob Herring
2015-04-01 16:46     ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] ARM: dts: omap3-gta04: Add battery support Marek Belisko
2015-03-16 20:53   ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-16 21:04     ` Tony Lindgren
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] power: twl4030_madc_battery: Add of_twl4030_madc_match to MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE Marek Belisko
2015-03-10 21:27 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] power: twl4030_madc_battery: Add missing MODULE_ALIAS Marek Belisko
2015-04-06 17:45   ` Sebastian Reichel

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