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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Ratelimit messages printed by console drivers
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:00:02 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180423130002.GA465@tigerII.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180423122600.sozmrytiasd32bhc@pathway.suse.cz>
On (04/23/18 14:26), Petr Mladek wrote:
> need to see the problems and be able to debug them. BTW: I wrote
> this in the patch description.
>
> > A very quick googling:
>
> Nice collection. Just note that the useful (ratelimited) information
> always fits into the first 100 lines in all these examples:
I'm *very and really* sorry to ask that, but are you serious now?
Apologies if I'm not getting a joke here, or something.
[..]
> > Throttling down that error mechanism to 100 lines
> > per hour, or 1000 lines per hour is unlikely will be welcomed.
>
> I wonder if you have bigger problems with the number of lines
> or with the length of the period.
>
> We simply _must_ limit the number of lines. Otherwise we would
> never be able to break an _infinite_ loop.
Give me examples of such messages, and please do explain why you were
not able to rate-limit them and instead decided to introduce a system
wide printk() rate-limit.
> > Among all the patches and proposal that we saw so far, one stands out - it's
> > the original Tejun's patch [offloading to work queue]. Because it has zero
> > interference with the existing call_console_drivers()->printk()
> > channels.
>
> The only problem is that it does not solve the infinite loop.
Same as above. I'm not kidding. I really want to know what unfixable&endless
messages you are talking about? May I take look at the backtraces?
> > What is so special about this case that we decided to screw up printk()
> > instead?
>
> Also messages from console drivers are about printk debugging. There must
> be some limitations by definition.
No. Check the links that I found after _literally_ 5 seconds of googling.
Tons of messages are coming from core kernel code. Nothing to do with
the debugging. It *is* a valid and widely used error reporting channel.
End of story.
SERIOUSLY. PLEASE (!) - don't turn printk() into rate-limited printk().
Don't introduce that HUGE regression. Let's handle it the same way as we
always do - let's look at the logs, and rate-limit misbehaving code.
> > diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > index 247808333ba4..484c456c095a 100644
> > --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> > @@ -2385,9 +2385,11 @@ void console_unlock(void)
> > */
> > console_lock_spinning_enable();
> >
> > + __printk_safe_exit();
> > stop_critical_timings(); /* don't trace print latency */
> > call_console_drivers(ext_text, ext_len, text, len);
> > start_critical_timings();
> > + __printk_safe_enter();
>
> Is this by intention? What is the reason to call
> console_lock_spinning_disable_and_check() in printk_safe() context, please?
Yes, it is. console_lock_spinning_enable() is touching console_owner_lock:
an `internal' printk lock -- which we also touch in vprintk_emit(). As such
[internal printk lock] it must be accessed under printk_safe(), by definition.
> > if (console_lock_spinning_disable_and_check()) {
> > printk_safe_exit_irqrestore(flags);
-ss
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-23 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-13 12:47 Petr Mladek
2018-04-13 14:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-14 2:35 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-16 1:47 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-16 4:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-19 12:53 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-20 2:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-20 9:12 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-20 12:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-20 14:01 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-20 14:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-20 14:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-20 14:57 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-20 15:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-23 10:32 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-23 11:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-23 12:45 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-25 5:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-26 9:42 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-27 10:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-05-09 12:00 ` Petr Mladek
2018-05-09 12:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-26 10:24 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-02-28 4:45 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-23 5:21 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-04-23 12:26 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-23 13:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
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