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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>
Cc: Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
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Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] platform: device tree support for early platform drivers
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:57:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180424175752.GC3094@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180424173051.15099-1-brgl@bgdev.pl>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 07:30:40PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> From: Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>
>
> Device tree based systems often use OF_DECLARE() macros for devices
> that need to be initialized early in the boot process such as clocks,
> timers etc. However platform devices are more desirable.
>
> This series aims at introducing support for early platform drivers for
> OF-based systems.
>
> The idea is to have a special compatible fallback string: "earlydev"
> that similarily to "syscon" would be added to device nodes that need
> early probing. We then need to call of_early_platform_populate() early
> in the boot process to actually probe the registered devices.
This makes no sense to me. It's not the device tree that should
contain the knowledge that these need to be registered/probed early in
the boot. That need is a property of the operating system/device
drivers, and so the *drivers* should be the ones that contain the
knowledge.
> I am aware that this new compatible does not strictly correspond with
> the "hardware description only" rule of DT, but we already have many
> functionalities that break this rule: syscon, gpio hogs etc.
>
> The first user of this new functionality will be the DaVinci platform
> for which we want to probe the pll, psc and timer drivers early in the
> boot sequence but keep them implemented as platform drivers.
>
> In the future, if this series gets accepted, this could become and
> alternative to TIMER_OF_DECLARE, CLK_OF_DECLARE etc. and could lead
> to deprecating of those macros in favor of early platform drivers.
This seems completely unacceptable, in that it would render new
kernels unable to boot on existing device trees (which may be
hard-coded in rom on existing devices).
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-24 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-24 17:30 Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 01/11] platform: early: provide early_platform_add_device() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 02/11] platform: provide early_platform_driver_register_probe_all() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 03/11] platform: make support for early platform devices conditional Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 19:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-04-25 14:02 ` Rich Felker
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 04/11] of: platform: use pdev as name for vars of type struct platform_device Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] platform: use a dedicated list_head for early devices Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-26 4:27 ` kbuild test robot
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 06/11] of: provide for_each_compatible_child_node() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 07/11] dt-bindings: add bindings for early devices Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 08/11] of: platform: provide of_early_platform_populate() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 09/11] platform: provide early_platform_driver() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 10/11] of: platform: provide of_early_platform_probe() Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-26 3:46 ` kbuild test robot
2018-04-24 17:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] misc: implement a dummy early platform driver Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 17:55 ` [PATCH 00/11] platform: device tree support for early platform drivers Mark Rutland
2018-04-24 17:59 ` Rich Felker
2018-04-24 17:57 ` Rich Felker [this message]
2018-04-25 9:33 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2018-04-24 18:19 ` Robin Murphy
2018-04-24 19:39 ` Rob Herring
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