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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, "H . Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] gnss: add new GNSS subsystem Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:24:13 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20180425072413.GI4615@localhost> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20180424201318.GA14390@amd> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 10:13:19PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > This series adds a new subsystem for GNSS receivers (e.g. GPS > > receivers). > > Actually... I'd just call it GPS subsystem. Yes, GPS is a bit > misleading, but so is GNSS. We'd like Loran to use similar interface, > right? We'd like to QZSS to use similar interface, too... > > https://www.pcworld.com/article/205325/japan_launches_its_first_gps_satellite.html > . QZSS is not _global_ positioning system. Still they call it GPS. I'd > call it GPS too. What Marcel said. Never heard of Loran, but apparently it's no longer in use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_navigation#Satellite_navigation > (Alternatively, we could have drivers/position and /dev/pos0...) If you find such a system in use and implement a driver for it, we'll just let it be the odd bird. > Looking closer... I'm not sure if it makes sense to push different > protocols (SiRF, NMEA, ...) through one device. Userland should know > what protocol to expect... Yes, there will be common code between > /dev/nmea0 and /dev/sirf0... That's not how GNSS devices work. It does not seem to be uncommon to switch to a vendor protocol with a richer feature set and back to NMEA (e.g. for configuration). Raw GNSS data may also be available over the vendor protocol, etc. And some devices even support using to protocols concurrently on one port. I was going to call the device node /dev/gnssraw0 (cf. hidraw), but since "raw" GNSS measurement already has a meaning in this space I decided to drop that suffix. It can all be accessed over /dev/gnss0. > I don't know. I'd really like to see '/dev/input/event0'-like layer, > so that userland would not need to know about different protocols. But > your work solves some problems we have now... Yeah, and moving gpsd into the kernel is probably never going to happen. But if it were, we probably wouldn't be using a character device to access it anyway. Johan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-25 7:24 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-04-24 16:34 [PATCH 0/7] gnss: add new GNSS subsystem Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 1/7] gnss: add GNSS receiver subsystem Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 8:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2018-04-25 10:56 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 12:23 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-29 13:35 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2018-05-02 7:57 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/7] dt-bindings: add generic gnss binding Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 18:26 ` Rob Herring 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 3/7] gnss: add generic serial driver Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 8:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2018-04-25 10:58 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 9:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2018-04-25 11:05 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 18:16 ` Rob Herring 2018-04-26 9:10 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-01 14:05 ` Rob Herring 2018-05-02 8:16 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-02 13:16 ` Rob Herring 2018-05-07 9:06 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-03 9:35 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-05-03 18:50 ` Andreas Kemnade 2018-05-04 5:16 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-05-04 11:42 ` Sebastian Reichel 2018-05-04 12:04 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-05-04 13:37 ` Sebastian Reichel 2018-05-04 14:29 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-07 10:07 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-07 10:01 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-07 15:45 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-07 16:34 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-07 17:50 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-08 6:58 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-08 15:22 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-08 15:47 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-08 15:54 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-08 16:49 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-09 13:10 ` OMAP serial runtime PM and autosuspend (was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding)) Johan Hovold 2018-05-09 13:57 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-17 10:09 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-17 17:10 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-21 13:48 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-21 15:48 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-24 9:17 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-24 13:32 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-25 14:02 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-08 15:56 ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Sebastian Reichel 2018-05-09 9:18 ` Serdev runtime PM (was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding) Johan Hovold 2018-05-09 9:49 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-09 14:05 ` Tony Lindgren 2018-05-17 10:25 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-07 9:47 ` [PATCH 4/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add u-blox binding Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 5/7] gnss: add driver for u-blox receivers Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 6/7] dt-bindings: gnss: add sirfstar binding Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 18:25 ` Rob Herring 2018-04-26 9:12 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 16:34 ` [PATCH 7/7] gnss: add driver for sirfstar-based receivers Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 17:40 ` [PATCH 0/7] gnss: add new GNSS subsystem H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-04-24 17:50 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 19:44 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-04-25 8:11 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-26 10:10 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller 2018-04-26 18:21 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-24 20:13 ` Pavel Machek 2018-04-24 20:59 ` Andreas Kemnade 2018-04-25 7:32 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 6:49 ` Marcel Holtmann 2018-04-25 7:24 ` Johan Hovold [this message] 2018-04-24 20:38 ` Pavel Machek 2018-04-25 6:26 ` Pavel Machek 2018-04-25 6:51 ` Johan Hovold 2018-04-25 8:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman 2018-04-25 10:31 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-04 13:27 ` Sebastian Reichel 2018-05-04 20:03 ` Pavel Machek 2018-05-05 17:28 ` Sebastian Reichel 2018-05-05 21:11 ` Pavel Machek 2018-05-06 6:47 ` Marcel Holtmann 2018-05-07 10:20 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-07 19:06 ` Marcel Holtmann 2018-05-08 7:01 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-08 7:49 ` Marcel Holtmann 2018-05-08 12:48 ` Johan Hovold 2018-05-08 20:03 ` Marcel Holtmann 2018-05-30 10:26 ` Johan Hovold
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