From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqIUSL/1BWnb840ZYbb3Cw7X/qgr6Ziu2Jq+BqSQhCaG67PsIh0ckJc1aLq4fIRhE+UY0QT ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1524987063; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Fq07fgD87VKWaA6QJjMeszkArgtfwRPzV8aCcVaMG/EJe1X7AWp0kZWBNCLJOZW2z+ VOwCda+8bMqse1ZMIBEj+ROsXs1YchRtPoFPYVtOfJ9LHN/TQ9whxkIuulO7m16ZjgWz bcMnEoff85mbdd30w2X7a5JdrbF5uS8+qFb2j6NjDEVpdaq/nUXrR/GhkuCHKCG3BEMl Ev2uRGRGRg1JD8XLfZpnQrXFD2fnC1zrTo/c/3fgukTuNsgT3OMu/agmoZv16bobMuB3 mccSdqC9e1Mbbkw+V1mzzM/fp0rOYoPpjIksSAF0I+5Jf36Z54sZPO+pV3f9hDDWwucD WIow== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=/LiNC79hL+tbXyR61uJ6/psTqqLcS52SYl4Nm3BGrH0=; b=g6TVNT3WjpgHfIEfefW2Qf/vyLH9EeAGUzHvkFlhCE1xSjRuEpSsszMdYlXUHl1fND NJ9wzti5q5rihUKG37tZv0BSMc/u2RrNXGvQJ1Rf5G+FUtG13g3ghxDjjejqAAkOH9kp gA5PRd7gU1S6VYn0BWwqYCW+z4CoL1qc1jPOYcr1WOA20Y822P4p1EwG270jqyKKTIS5 ouk7mwxtQaUfPyUNN0dSsx0Cc8eh1IIM483XZjde9yc6jgCH9NBDHf6h5Gte6okRBTZA Fws/b+7oH8+7Q8+xLPWWpmfMpbTCaUSHGgpjUuZOto3yT4+zlxXWBrIWKWo3Goos6h8D H5kw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lurodriguez@suse.de designates 195.135.220.15 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lurodriguez@suse.de Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lurodriguez@suse.de designates 195.135.220.15 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lurodriguez@suse.de Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:31:01 +0000 From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" To: =?utf-8?B?UmFmYcWCIE1pxYJlY2tp?= , One Thousand Gnomes Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , LKML , Jonathan Corbet , DOCUMENTATION , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Kate Stewart , Philippe Ombredanne , Christoph Hellwig , Russell King , Rob Herring , Jonas Oberg , Joe Perches , linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Kate Stewart , Florian Fainelli , mcgrof@kernel.org Subject: Re: LICENSES: Missing ISC text & possibly a category ("Not recommended" vs. "Preferred licenses") Message-ID: <20180429073101.GD27875@wotan.suse.de> References: <20180429052617.GC24294@kroah.com> <20180429070315.GC27875@wotan.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180429070315.GC27875@wotan.suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1599026726440039181?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1599064834683403237?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 07:03:15AM +0000, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 07:26:17AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > I see it is only used in a very small number of dts files. Why not just > > use BSD-2-Clause instead? What do you find in ISC that is not available > > to you with just BSD? > > ISC license is a simplified version of the BSD license due to the Berne > convention. It was also used for wireless drivers to help the BSD community in > particular OpenBSD who had picked that license for new contributions claimed > simplification of the BSD-2-Clause. Because of this reason many BSD communities > feel super comfortable with picking up kernel code in Linux under this license. > > Granted, I'm on no longer a fan of promoting permissive licenses as it didn't > buy us cross-collaboration at all. We tried. > > But it would be unfair to advice against a license unless a reason is stated in > favor of another BSD license. Why is the ISC license worse than the > BSD-2-Clause? Here's a good 'ol discussed reason as to why to prefer the 2-clause BSD I suppose, and also to consider dual licensing actually: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20120408155709.1c817f1f@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk So essentially tested over time, runtime considerations, and whatever the FSF decides today may change tomorrow. So best to be safe. The dual licensing strategy also helps with "unanticipated incompatibility". Luis