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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/18] wait: wait.h: Get rid of a kernel-doc/Sphinx warnings
Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 12:35:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180509123540.083b61d2@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180509152026.GA12198@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:20:26 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> The whole rst wankery is detrimental to that interface in order to
> pander to something else.. I don't see the value. I've objected before,
> and I suppose I'll object again.

One person's wankery is another's integrated, browsable, and searchable
documentation that shows some signs of having actually been thought about,
I guess.

> > It's a simple colon.  It goes along with the /** marker for kerneldoc
> > comments and the @ markers found within them, both of which you seem to
> > have found a way to live with.  
> 
> Barely, and personally I tend to not bother with kerneldoc much. Most of
> the comments I write lack the extra *, and I note that the other fix to
> this problem it to drop that spurious * here as well.

Perhaps you'd like to post a patch removing the kerneldoc mechanism?  It
would make my life a lot easier...:)

> The @arg thing is okay, it clearly distinguishes arguments/variable
> names from regular text. But "::" is the C++ class member syntax, not
> the start of an English enumeration or the like.

Not sure what C++ has to do with anything, unless we want to bring in
$LANGUAGE_WE_DISRESPECT spuriously.  I'm sure it's the Perl
do-five-different-things-magically syntax too.  It's probably an entire
natural-language processing system in Haskell.  It also happens to be the
Sphinx "start literal block" syntax.

> > You're not the only consumer of the docs.  You may not appreciate the
> > improvements that have come, but others certainly do.  I do hope that you
> > can find it in youself to avoid vandalizing things for everybody else ...?  
> 
> Why should I care for people not using text editors to write code?

The set of "people using text editors to write code" is a superset
of the set containing only Peter Zijlstra.  Many of the people who have
used text editors to write the very code we all work on find a minimally
structured documentation system to be useful.  Out of respect for them, if
nothing else, I'll ask again, please, that you suffer the substantial
cognitive drain of skipping over an extra colon.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-09 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07  9:35 [PATCH 00/18] Fix some build warnings/errors with Sphinx Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 01/18] docs: can.rst: fix a footnote reference Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 18:41   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 02/18] docs: fix location of request_firmware & friends Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 15:49   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 12:26     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 03/18] docs: */index.rst: Add newer documents to their respective index.rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 15:59   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 04/18] docs: admin-guide: add bcache documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 16:01   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 05/18] docs: core-api: add cachetlb documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:29   ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 14:40     ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-08 16:02       ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:28         ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 18:05       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 18:28         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 19:05           ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:04   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-08 16:51     ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 06/18] docs: core-api: add cgroup-v2 documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 15:51   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-09 12:02     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 07/18] docs: core-api: add circular-buffers documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:31   ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:08   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 08/18] docs: driver-api: add clk documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 16:10   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 09/18] net: mac80211.h: fix a bad comment line Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:37   ` Kalle Valo
2018-05-07 12:38     ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-09 12:04       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:04         ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 10/18] rcu: rcupdate.h: get rid of Sphinx warnings at rcu_pointer_handoff() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 14:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-09 11:55     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-14 19:40       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 11/18] docs: crypto_engine.rst: Fix two parse warnings Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 12/18] time: timer.c: adjust a kernel-doc comment Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-13 14:00   ` [tip:timers/core] timers: Adjust " tip-bot for Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 13/18] wait: wait.h: Get rid of a kernel-doc/Sphinx warnings Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09  8:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-09 14:45     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-09 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-09 18:35         ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2018-05-09 18:50           ` Markus Heiser
2018-05-09 19:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-10 12:23       ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-10 13:15         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 16:52           ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-10 17:45             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-10  9:38     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 12:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-10 13:04         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 13:30       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 13:31         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 14:21         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 15:38           ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 16:42             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 17:14               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-11  7:06               ` Markus Heiser
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 14/18] fbdev: modedb.c: fix a kernel-doc markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-15 10:22   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 15/18] iio: iio.h: use nested struct support on " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 17:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-09 12:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 16/18] mtd: rawnand.h: use nested union kernel-doc markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-07 11:32     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:02       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 12:10       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:22         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 13:28           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 15:56   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 17/18] docs: uio-howto.rst: use a code block to solve a warning Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 18/18] w1: w1_io.c: fix a kernel-doc warning Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 11:03   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2018-05-09 12:32     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 13:11       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 10:37         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2018-05-08 16:13 ` [PATCH 00/18] Fix some build warnings/errors with Sphinx Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-08 17:36   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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