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From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/18] wait: wait.h: Get rid of a kernel-doc/Sphinx warnings
Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:23:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180510122335.GA7704@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180509084518.247650e2@lwn.net>

On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 08:45:18AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2018 10:41:20 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > > This is easily done by using "::" instead of just ":".  
> > 
> > And I'll voice my objection once again. This makes a regular comment
> > worse. This rst stuff is utter shit for making normal text files less
> > readable in your favourite text editor.
> > 
> > If this gets merged, I'll simply remove that spurious ':' the next time
> > I'm near that comment.
> 
> Seriously, Peter?
> 
> It's a simple colon.  It goes along with the /** marker for kerneldoc
> comments and the @ markers found within them, both of which you seem to
> have found a way to live with.
> 
> The RST work was discussed for a year before we even started.  It has
> brought in the efforts of a large number of developers, all of whom see
> the value in actually caring about our documentation and making it
> accessible to a much larger group of readers.  And it has all happened
> while preserving the primacy of the plain-text documentation.
> 
> You're not the only consumer of the docs.  You may not appreciate the
> improvements that have come, but others certainly do.  I do hope that you
> can find it in youself to avoid vandalizing things for everybody else ...?

You wrote it:  the fact that some people (including its developers) see
a value in the RST work or the fact that such work made the kernel doc.
accessible to a larger group of readers are not in question here;  only
remember that other people (including some developers running into the
"disadventure" of opening an RST doc. from their preferred text editor
and being brought to conclude:  "WTH!  I need to open a web browser, I
guess...") _use_ such doc. and _do care_ about it, and that what might
be an improvement for some people might look as "vandalizing" to others.

We're talking about readability/accessibility here, but I think similar
considerations apply to other aspects of the doc. such as availability/
completeness (yes, I did hear developers arguing "I won't write such a
doc., because...") and consistency (w.r.t. the doc. itself and sources).

  Andrea


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> jon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-10 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07  9:35 [PATCH 00/18] Fix some build warnings/errors with Sphinx Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 01/18] docs: can.rst: fix a footnote reference Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 18:41   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 02/18] docs: fix location of request_firmware & friends Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 15:49   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-09 12:26     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 03/18] docs: */index.rst: Add newer documents to their respective index.rst Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 15:59   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 04/18] docs: admin-guide: add bcache documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 16:01   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 05/18] docs: core-api: add cachetlb documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:29   ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 14:40     ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-08 16:02       ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:28         ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 18:05       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 18:28         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 19:05           ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:04   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-08 16:51     ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 06/18] docs: core-api: add cgroup-v2 documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 15:51   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-09 12:02     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 07/18] docs: core-api: add circular-buffers documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:31   ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-08 16:08   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 08/18] docs: driver-api: add clk documentation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-08 16:10   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 09/18] net: mac80211.h: fix a bad comment line Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 12:37   ` Kalle Valo
2018-05-07 12:38     ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-09 12:04       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:04         ` Johannes Berg
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 10/18] rcu: rcupdate.h: get rid of Sphinx warnings at rcu_pointer_handoff() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 14:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-09 11:55     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-14 19:40       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 11/18] docs: crypto_engine.rst: Fix two parse warnings Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 12/18] time: timer.c: adjust a kernel-doc comment Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-13 14:00   ` [tip:timers/core] timers: Adjust " tip-bot for Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 13/18] wait: wait.h: Get rid of a kernel-doc/Sphinx warnings Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09  8:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-09 14:45     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-09 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-09 18:35         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-09 18:50           ` Markus Heiser
2018-05-09 19:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-10 12:23       ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2018-05-10 13:15         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 16:52           ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-10 17:45             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-10  9:38     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 12:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-10 13:04         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 13:30       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 13:31         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 14:21         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 15:38           ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 16:42             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-10 17:14               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-11  7:06               ` Markus Heiser
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 14/18] fbdev: modedb.c: fix a kernel-doc markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-15 10:22   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 15/18] iio: iio.h: use nested struct support on " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07 17:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-05-09 12:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 16/18] mtd: rawnand.h: use nested union kernel-doc markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-07  9:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-07 11:32     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:02       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 12:10       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 12:22         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 13:28           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 15:56   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 17/18] docs: uio-howto.rst: use a code block to solve a warning Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08  3:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-07  9:35 ` [PATCH 18/18] w1: w1_io.c: fix a kernel-doc warning Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-08 11:03   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2018-05-09 12:32     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-09 13:11       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-10 10:37         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2018-05-08 16:13 ` [PATCH 00/18] Fix some build warnings/errors with Sphinx Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-08 17:36   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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