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From: "dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Hui Wang <hui.wang@canonical.com>,
Xiaoxiao Liu <xiaoxiao.liu-1@cn.alps.com>,
XiaoXiao Liu <sliuuxiaonxiao@gmail.com>,
"peter.hutterer@who-t.net" <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Xiaojian Cao <xiaojian.cao@cn.alps.com>,
"zhangfp1@lenovo.com" <zhangfp1@lenovo.com>,
Naoki Saito <naoki.saito@alpsalpine.com>,
Hideo Kawase <hideo.kawase@alpsalpine.com>
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: [PATCH] input: alps-fix the issue alps cs19 trackstick do not work.
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:45:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190611174507.GF143729@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190611173856.jjwoagud6doxvpy3@pali>
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 07:38:56PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 June 2019 10:32:28 dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 07:17:07PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 11 June 2019 10:07:07 dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 09:23:33AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 11 June 2019 12:32:33 Hui Wang wrote:
> > > > > > On 2019/6/11 上午11:23, Hui Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2019/6/11 上午11:05, Xiaoxiao Liu wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Pali,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I discussed with our FW team about this problem.
> > > > > > > > We think the V8 method means a touchpad feature and does not fit
> > > > > > > > the CS19 trackpoint device.
> > > > > > > > CS19 TrackPoint needn't use any Absolute (Raw) mode and is usually
> > > > > > > > use standard mouse data.
> > > > > > > > CS19 TrackPoint device is a completely different device with
> > > > > > > > DualPoint device of Dell/HP.
> > > > > > > > CS19 TrackPoint device is independent of Touchpad. (Touchpad is
> > > > > > > > connecting by I2C, TrackPoint is directly connecting with PS2 port.)
> > > > > > > > And it has completely another FW.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So we think it is better to use the mouse mode for CS19 trackpoint.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe here is some mis-understanding, the mouse mode here doesn't mean
> > > > > > > we use psmouse-base.c for cs19 (bare ps/2 mouse), we plan to use
> > > > > > > trackpoint.c to drive this HW, so this trackpoint has all features a
> > > > > > > trackpoint should have.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > And I sent a patch one month ago to let the the trackpoint.c to drive this
> > > > > > HW: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-input/msg61341.html, maybe that
> > > > > > patch is reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > So instead of creating blacklist, you should check for TP_VARIANT_ALPS
> > > > > in alps.c and disallow its usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or maybe better, move trackpoint.c detect code before alsp.c detect code
> > > > > in psmouse-base. And no changes in alps.c are needed.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be very cautions of moving around the protocol detection. It is very
> > > > fragile, so if we can detect trackpoint-only case in alps.c and skip on
> > > > to trackpoint I would prefer it.
> > >
> > > The main problem is that proposed trackpoint-only check in alps.c is
> > > basically what trackpoint.c is doing for checking if device is
> > > trackpoint (via function trackpoint_start_protocol()).
> > >
> > > So I'm not sure now what is the best solution...
> >
> > Unfortunately currently trackpoint is being probed only after we tried
> > Elan, Genius, and Logitech PS2++ protocols, and I am not sure if moving
> > trackpoint around will disturb them or not.
> >
> > I do not think there is much code duplication by pulling limited version
> > of trackpoint detection code into alps.c and then have it bail out when
> > it sees trackpoint-only device so trackpoint.c can handle it properly.
>
> Ok. Seems that it is the best solution.
>
> The last question is, should be use ALPS or Trackpoint protocol? Because
> it looks like that device can be configured to one or other.
>
> What are pros and cons of these two protocols?
As far as I know the device implements trackpoint protocol, although not
complete version. Several manufacturers started making trackponts once
IBM/Lenovo patents on the original one expired (I think).
The data stream is regular relative PS/2, bit it allows controlling
device behavior a bit, such as press-to-select option and device
sensitivity. IBM/Lenovo version has many more parameters.
Thanks.
--
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-11 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-27 9:44 XiaoXiao Liu
2019-05-27 10:09 ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-28 1:37 ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-05-28 7:18 ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-28 7:55 ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-06-10 9:20 ` Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-06-10 10:03 ` Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-06-10 10:43 ` Pali Rohár
2019-06-11 3:05 ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-06-11 3:23 ` Hui Wang
2019-06-11 4:32 ` Hui Wang
2019-06-11 7:23 ` Pali Rohár
2019-06-11 17:07 ` dmitry.torokhov
2019-06-11 17:17 ` Pali Rohár
2019-06-11 17:32 ` dmitry.torokhov
2019-06-11 17:38 ` Pali Rohár
2019-06-11 17:45 ` dmitry.torokhov [this message]
2019-06-17 1:29 ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-06-17 7:49 ` Pali Rohár
2019-06-18 8:19 ` Hui Wang
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