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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: don't obfuscate NULL and error pointers
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:33:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200218103346.5hbe7d5aj2ma7trk@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOi1vP-2uAD83Vi=Eebu_GPzq5DUt+z9zogA7BNGF1B1jUgAVw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue 2020-02-18 01:07:53, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:47 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:28:03PM +0100, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
> > > I don't see what security concern is addressed by obfuscating NULL
> > > and IS_ERR() error pointers, printed with %p/%pK. Given the number
> > > of sites where %p is used (over 10000) and the fact that NULL pointers
> > > aren't uncommon, it probably wouldn't take long for an attacker to
> > > find the hash that corresponds to 0. Although harder, the same goes
> > > for most common error values, such as -1, -2, -11, -14, etc.
> > >
> > > The NULL part actually fixes a regression: NULL pointers weren't
> > > obfuscated until commit 3e5903eb9cff ("vsprintf: Prevent crash when
> > > dereferencing invalid pointers") which went into 5.2. I'm tacking
> > > the IS_ERR() part on here because error pointers won't leak kernel
> > > addresses and printing them as pointers shouldn't be any different
> > > from e.g. %d with PTR_ERR_OR_ZERO(). Obfuscating them just makes
> > > debugging based on existing pr_debug and friends excruciating.
> > >
> > > Note that the "always print 0's for %pK when kptr_restrict == 2"
> > > behaviour which goes way back is left as is.
> > >
> > > Example output with the patch applied:
> > >
> > > ptr error-ptr NULL
> > > %p: 0000000001f8cc5b fffffffffffffff2 0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 0: 0000000001f8cc5b fffffffffffffff2 0000000000000000
> > > %px: ffff888048c04020 fffffffffffffff2 0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 1: ffff888048c04020 fffffffffffffff2 0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 2: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
> >
> > This seems reasonable. Though I wonder -- since the efault string is
> > exposed now -- should this instead print all the error-ptr strings
> > instead of the unsigned negative pointer value?
It would make sense to distinguish it from a hashed value that might
be in the NULL or ERR range as well.
The chance is small. But it might safe people from spending time
on false paths.
That said, I am fine to accept the patch as is. It makes sense
and it does not need to be perfect. After all, one motivation
behind the hashed %p was to make it useless and motivate people
to remove it. And I am sure that someone will send a patch adding
error-ptr sooner or later anyway ;-)
Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-18 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-17 22:28 Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-17 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-18 0:07 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 10:33 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-02-18 11:16 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 16:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-19 2:13 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-18 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-18 19:31 ` Adam Borowski
2020-02-18 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-18 20:19 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-19 7:30 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 8:21 ` [PATCH] vsprintf: sanely handle NULL passed to %pe Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 9:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 11:20 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-19 11:25 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 11:29 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-19 11:53 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 13:48 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-19 13:56 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 14:45 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-19 15:38 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 15:40 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 17:23 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-20 12:57 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-20 15:02 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-21 13:05 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-21 23:52 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-22 8:14 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-24 9:55 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-18 18:44 ` [PATCH] vsprintf: don't obfuscate NULL and error pointers Linus Torvalds
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