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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	"Tobin C . Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vsprintf: don't obfuscate NULL and error pointers
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:33:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200218103346.5hbe7d5aj2ma7trk@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOi1vP-2uAD83Vi=Eebu_GPzq5DUt+z9zogA7BNGF1B1jUgAVw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 2020-02-18 01:07:53, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:47 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:28:03PM +0100, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
> > > I don't see what security concern is addressed by obfuscating NULL
> > > and IS_ERR() error pointers, printed with %p/%pK.  Given the number
> > > of sites where %p is used (over 10000) and the fact that NULL pointers
> > > aren't uncommon, it probably wouldn't take long for an attacker to
> > > find the hash that corresponds to 0.  Although harder, the same goes
> > > for most common error values, such as -1, -2, -11, -14, etc.
> > >
> > > The NULL part actually fixes a regression: NULL pointers weren't
> > > obfuscated until commit 3e5903eb9cff ("vsprintf: Prevent crash when
> > > dereferencing invalid pointers") which went into 5.2.  I'm tacking
> > > the IS_ERR() part on here because error pointers won't leak kernel
> > > addresses and printing them as pointers shouldn't be any different
> > > from e.g. %d with PTR_ERR_OR_ZERO().  Obfuscating them just makes
> > > debugging based on existing pr_debug and friends excruciating.
> > >
> > > Note that the "always print 0's for %pK when kptr_restrict == 2"
> > > behaviour which goes way back is left as is.
> > >
> > > Example output with the patch applied:
> > >
> > >                             ptr         error-ptr              NULL
> > > %p:            0000000001f8cc5b  fffffffffffffff2  0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 0: 0000000001f8cc5b  fffffffffffffff2  0000000000000000
> > > %px:           ffff888048c04020  fffffffffffffff2  0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 1: ffff888048c04020  fffffffffffffff2  0000000000000000
> > > %pK, kptr = 2: 0000000000000000  0000000000000000  0000000000000000
> >
> > This seems reasonable. Though I wonder -- since the efault string is
> > exposed now -- should this instead print all the error-ptr strings
> > instead of the unsigned negative pointer value?

It would make sense to distinguish it from a hashed value that might
be in the NULL or ERR range as well.

The chance is small. But it might safe people from spending time
on false paths.

That said, I am fine to accept the patch as is. It makes sense
and it does not need to be perfect. After all, one motivation
behind the hashed %p was to make it useless and motivate people
to remove it. And I am sure that someone will send a patch adding
error-ptr sooner or later anyway ;-)

Reviewed-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-18 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-17 22:28 Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-17 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-18  0:07   ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 10:33     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-02-18 11:16       ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 16:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-19  2:13       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-18 18:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-18 19:31       ` Adam Borowski
2020-02-18 19:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-18 20:19           ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-18 20:21             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-02-19  7:30             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19  8:21           ` [PATCH] vsprintf: sanely handle NULL passed to %pe Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19  9:35             ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 11:20             ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-19 11:25               ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 11:29                 ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-19 11:53               ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 13:48                 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-19 13:56                   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 14:45                     ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-19 15:38                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-19 15:40                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-19 17:23                         ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-20 12:57                         ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-20 15:02                           ` Ilya Dryomov
2020-02-21 13:05                             ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-21 23:52                               ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-02-22  8:14                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-02-24  9:55                                 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-18 18:44 ` [PATCH] vsprintf: don't obfuscate NULL and error pointers Linus Torvalds

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