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From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Stefan Metzmacher <metze@samba.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	raven@themaw.net, mszeredi@redhat.com, christian@brauner.io,
	jannh@google.com, darrick.wong@oracle.com, kzak@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] VFS: Filesystem information [ver #18]
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:18:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200310001821.vb7qwfhnq67rsknn@alap3.anarazel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32c384ac3adf0cf924d3071a13af7edffe53cc2b.camel@redhat.com>

Hi,

On 2020-03-09 18:49:31 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 12:22 -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> > On 2020-03-09 13:50:59 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > I sent a patch a few weeks ago to make syncfs() return errors when there
> > > have been writeback errors on the superblock. It's not merged yet, but
> > > once we have something like that in place, we could expose info from the
> > > errseq_t to userland using this interface.
> >
> > I'm still a bit worried about the details of errseq_t being exposed to
> > userland. Partially because it seems to restrict further evolution of
> > errseq_t, and partially because it will likely up with userland trying
> > to understand it (it's e.g. just too attractive to report a count of
> > errors etc).
>
> Trying to interpret the counter field won't really tell you anything.
> The counter is not incremented unless someone has queried the value
> since it was last checked. A single increment could represent a single
> writeback error or 10000 identical ones.

Oh, right.  A zero errseq would still indicate something, but that's
probably fine.


> > Is there a reason to not instead report a 64bit counter instead of the
> > cookie? In contrast to the struct file case we'd only have the space
> > overhead once per superblock, rather than once per #files * #fd. And it
> > seems that the maintenance of that counter could be done without
> > widespread changes, e.g. instead/in addition to your change:

> What problem would moving to a 64-bit counter solve? I get the concern
> about people trying to get a counter out of the cookie field, but giving
> people an explicit 64-bit counter seems even more open to
> misinterpretation.

Well, you could get an actual error count out of it? I was thinking that
that value would get incremented every time mapping_set_error() is
called, which should make it a meaningful count?

Greetings,

Andres Freund

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-10  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-09 14:00 David Howells
2020-03-09 14:00 ` [PATCH 01/14] VFS: Add additional RESOLVE_* flags " David Howells
2020-03-09 20:56   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-03-09 21:13   ` David Howells
2020-03-10  0:55   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-10  1:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-10  7:25     ` David Howells
2020-03-11 17:59       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-12  9:08         ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-03-12 16:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-12 17:11             ` Stefan Metzmacher
2020-03-12 19:37               ` Al Viro
2020-03-12 21:48               ` Jeremy Allison
2020-03-13  9:59               ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-13 10:00                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-13 16:48                 ` Jeremy Allison
2020-03-13 18:28                 ` Al Viro
2020-03-13 18:35                   ` Jeremy Allison
2020-03-16 14:21                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-16 14:20                     ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-12 19:25             ` Al Viro
2020-03-12 16:56           ` David Howells
2020-03-12 18:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-13  9:53               ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-13  9:50         ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 02/14] fsinfo: Add fsinfo() syscall to query filesystem information " David Howells
2020-03-10  9:31   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-10  9:32     ` [PATCH v19 01/14] fsinfo: Add fsinfo() syscall to query filesystem information Christian Brauner
2020-03-10  9:32       ` [PATCH v19 14/14] arch: wire up fsinfo syscall Christian Brauner
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 03/14] fsinfo: Provide a bitmap of supported features [ver #18] David Howells
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 04/14] fsinfo: Allow retrieval of superblock devname, options and stats " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 05/14] fsinfo: Allow fsinfo() to look up a mount object by ID " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 06/14] fsinfo: Add a uniquifier ID to struct mount " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH 07/14] fsinfo: Allow mount information to be queried " David Howells
2020-03-10  9:04   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 08/14] fsinfo: Allow the mount topology propogation flags to be retrieved " David Howells
2020-03-10  8:42   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 09/14] fsinfo: Provide notification overrun handling support " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 10/14] fsinfo: sample: Mount listing program " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 11/14] fsinfo: Add API documentation " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 12/14] fsinfo: Add support for AFS " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 13/14] fsinfo: Example support for Ext4 " David Howells
2020-03-09 14:02 ` [PATCH 14/14] fsinfo: Example support for NFS " David Howells
2020-03-09 17:50 ` [PATCH 00/14] VFS: Filesystem information " Jeff Layton
2020-03-09 19:22   ` Andres Freund
2020-03-09 22:49     ` Jeff Layton
2020-03-10  0:18       ` Andres Freund [this message]
2020-03-09 20:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-09 22:52 ` David Howells
2020-03-10  9:18   ` Miklos Szeredi

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