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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent soft lockup on memcg oom for UP systems
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 09:32:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200312083241.GT23944@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2003111238570.171292@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Wed 11-03-20 12:45:40, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > > > > When a process is oom killed as a result of memcg limits and the victim
> > > > > is waiting to exit, nothing ends up actually yielding the processor back
> > > > > to the victim on UP systems with preemption disabled. Instead, the
> > > > > charging process simply loops in memcg reclaim and eventually soft
> > > > > lockups.
> > > > >
> > > > > Memory cgroup out of memory: Killed process 808 (repro) total-vm:41944kB, anon-rss:35344kB, file-rss:504kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:0 pgtables:108kB oom_score_adj:0
> > > > > watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [repro:806]
> > > > > CPU: 0 PID: 806 Comm: repro Not tainted 5.6.0-rc5+ #136
> > > > > RIP: 0010:shrink_lruvec+0x4e9/0xa40
> > > > > ...
> > > > > Call Trace:
> > > > > shrink_node+0x40d/0x7d0
> > > > > do_try_to_free_pages+0x13f/0x470
> > > > > try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages+0x16d/0x230
> > > > > try_charge+0x247/0xac0
> > > > > mem_cgroup_try_charge+0x10a/0x220
> > > > > mem_cgroup_try_charge_delay+0x1e/0x40
> > > > > handle_mm_fault+0xdf2/0x15f0
> > > > > do_user_addr_fault+0x21f/0x420
> > > > > page_fault+0x2f/0x40
> > > > >
> > > > > Make sure that something ends up actually yielding the processor back to
> > > > > the victim to allow for memory freeing. Most appropriate place appears to
> > > > > be shrink_node_memcgs() where the iteration of all decendant memcgs could
> > > > > be particularly lengthy.
> > > >
> > > > There is a cond_resched in shrink_lruvec and another one in
> > > > shrink_page_list. Why doesn't any of them hit? Is it because there are
> > > > no pages on the LRU list? Because rss data suggests there should be
> > > > enough pages to go that path. Or maybe it is shrink_slab path that takes
> > > > too long?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think it can be a number of cases, most notably mem_cgroup_protected()
> > > checks which is why the cond_resched() is added above it. Rather than add
> > > cond_resched() only for MEMCG_PROT_MIN and for certain MEMCG_PROT_LOW, the
> > > cond_resched() is added above the switch clause because the iteration
> > > itself may be potentially very lengthy.
> >
> > Was any of the above the case for your soft lockup case? How have you
> > managed to trigger it? As I've said I am not against the patch but I
> > would really like to see an actual explanation what happened rather than
> > speculations of what might have happened. If for nothing else then for
> > the future reference.
> >
>
> Yes, this is how it was triggered in my own testing.
>
> > If this is really about all the hierarchy being MEMCG_PROT_MIN protected
> > and that results in a very expensive and pointless reclaim walk that can
> > trigger soft lockup then it should be explicitly mentioned in the
> > changelog.
>
> I think the changelog clearly states that we need to guarantee that a
> reclaimer will yield the processor back to allow a victim to exit. This
> is where we make the guarantee. If it helps for the specific reason it
> triggered in my testing, we could add:
>
> "For example, mem_cgroup_protected() can prohibit reclaim and thus any
> yielding in page reclaim would not address the issue."
I would suggest something like the following:
"
The reclaim path (including the OOM) relies on explicit scheduling
points to hand over execution to tasks which could help with the reclaim
process. Currently it is mostly shrink_page_list which yields CPU for
each reclaimed page. This might be insuficient though in some
configurations. E.g. when a memcg OOM path is triggered in a hierarchy
which doesn't have any reclaimable memory because of memory reclaim
protection (MEMCG_PROT_MIN) then there is possible to trigger a soft
lockup during an out of memory situation on non preemptible kernels
<PUT YOUR SOFT LOCKUP SPLAT HERE>
Fix this by adding a cond_resched up in the reclaim path and make sure
there is a yield point regardless of reclaimability of the target
hierarchy.
"
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-12 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-10 21:39 [patch] mm, oom: prevent soft lockup on memcg oom for UP systems David Rientjes
2020-03-10 22:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-10 22:55 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11 9:34 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-11 19:38 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11 22:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-11 22:14 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 0:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-12 18:07 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 22:32 ` Andrew Morton
2020-03-16 9:31 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-16 10:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-16 10:14 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-13 0:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-13 22:01 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-13 23:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-13 23:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-16 23:59 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-17 3:18 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-17 4:09 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-18 0:55 ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2020-03-18 9:42 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-18 21:40 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-18 22:03 ` [patch v3] " David Rientjes
2020-03-19 7:09 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-12 4:23 ` [patch] " Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-10 22:10 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-10 23:02 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-11 19:45 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 8:32 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2020-03-12 18:20 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 20:16 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-16 9:32 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-11 0:18 ` Andrew Morton
2020-03-11 0:34 ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11 8:36 ` Michal Hocko
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