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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
To: Jagan Teki <jagan@amarulasolutions.com>
Cc: Robert Foss <robert.foss@linaro.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] drm/bridge: Document the probe issue with MIPI-DSI bridges
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:35:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210728133531.yzamhx5fhrofxwee@gilmour> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMty3ZD5rpYHtW-Rs4i=XvBmiVEaeWNu1j=QE3mFJTjSPJTpxQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Jagan,

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:12:09PM +0530, Jagan Teki wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 7:15 PM Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech> wrote:
> >
> > Interactions between bridges, panels, MIPI-DSI host and the component
> > framework are not trivial and can lead to probing issues when
> > implementing a display driver. Let's document the various cases we need
> > too consider, and the solution to support all the cases.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.rst |  6 +++
> >  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c          | 60 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 66 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.rst b/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.rst
> > index 10f8df7aecc0..ec2f65b31930 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.rst
> > @@ -157,6 +157,12 @@ Display Driver Integration
> >  .. kernel-doc:: drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c
> >     :doc: display driver integration
> >
> > +Special Care with MIPI-DSI bridges
> > +----------------------------------
> > +
> > +.. kernel-doc:: drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c
> > +   :doc: special care dsi
> > +
> >  Bridge Operations
> >  -----------------
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c
> > index c9a950bfdfe5..81f8dac12367 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c
> > @@ -95,6 +95,66 @@
> >   * documentation of bridge operations for more details).
> >   */
> >
> > +/**
> > + * DOC: special care dsi
> > + *
> > + * The interaction between the bridges and other frameworks involved in
> > + * the probing of the display driver and the bridge driver can be
> > + * challenging. Indeed, there's multiple cases that needs to be
> > + * considered:
> > + *
> > + * - The display driver doesn't use the component framework and isn't a
> > + *   MIPI-DSI host. In this case, the bridge driver will probe at some
> > + *   point and the display driver should try to probe again by returning
> > + *   EPROBE_DEFER as long as the bridge driver hasn't probed.
> > + *
> > + * - The display driver doesn't use the component framework, but is a
> > + *   MIPI-DSI host. The bridge device uses the MIPI-DCS commands to be
> > + *   controlled. In this case, the bridge device is a child of the
> > + *   display device and when it will probe it's assured that the display
> > + *   device (and MIPI-DSI host) is present. The display driver will be
> > + *   assured that the bridge driver is connected between the
> > + *   &mipi_dsi_host_ops.attach and &mipi_dsi_host_ops.detach operations.
> > + *   Therefore, it must run mipi_dsi_host_register() in its probe
> > + *   function, and then run drm_bridge_attach() in its
> > + *   &mipi_dsi_host_ops.attach hook.
> > + *
> > + * - The display driver uses the component framework and is a MIPI-DSI
> > + *   host. The bridge device uses the MIPI-DCS commands to be
> > + *   controlled. This is the same situation than above, and can run
> > + *   mipi_dsi_host_register() in either its probe or bind hooks.
> > + *
> > + * - The display driver uses the component framework and is a MIPI-DSI
> > + *   host. The bridge device uses a separate bus (such as I2C) to be
> > + *   controlled. In this case, there's no correlation between the probe
> > + *   of the bridge and display drivers, so care must be taken to avoid
> > + *   an endless EPROBE_DEFER loop, with each driver waiting for the
> > + *   other to probe.
> > + *
> > + * The ideal pattern to cover the last item (and all the others in the
> > + * display driver case) is to split the operations like this:
> > + *
> > + * - In the display driver must run mipi_dsi_host_register() and
> > + *   component_add in its probe hook. It will make sure that the
> > + *   MIPI-DSI host sticks around, and that the driver's bind can be
> > + *   called.
> > + *
> > + * - In its probe hook, the bridge driver must not try to find its
> > + *   MIPI-DSI host or register as a MIPI-DSI device. As far as the
> > + *   framework is concerned, it must only call drm_bridge_add().
> > + *
> > + * - In its bind hook, the display driver must try to find the bridge
> > + *   and return -EPROBE_DEFER if it doesn't find it. If it's there, it
> > + *   must call drm_bridge_attach(). The MIPI-DSI host is now functional.
> 
> There is an another problem occur for this scenario in the case of kms
> hotplug driver, sun6i_mipi_dsi.c. When host attach wait till drm
> device pointer found and drm device pointer would found only when bind
> done, and bind would complete only when &drm_bridge_funcs.attach hooks
> are complete. But, If DSI driver is fully bridge driven then this
> attach in bind will trigger panel_bridge hook attach and at this point
> we cannot get panel_bridge at all which indeed second attach would
> would failed.
> 
> This is one of the reason I'm trying to use drm_bridge_attach host
> attach itself instead of component bind, not yet succeeded.

I'm not really sure what you mean, but if you mention the code we have
in the DSI driver to make sure we can probe without our panel, then it's
not something that we really can support. Bridges cannot be hotplugged
in DRM and having some inconsistencies between drivers (since none of
them behave the same way there) and between what's plugged on the other
side of the DSI bus feels weird.

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-28 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-20 13:45 [PATCH 00/10] drm/bridge: Make panel and bridge probe order consistent Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 01/10] Revert "drm/vc4: dsi: Only register our component once a DSI device is attached" Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 02/10] drm/bridge: Add a function to abstract away panels Maxime Ripard
2021-07-22  7:49   ` Jagan Teki
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 03/10] drm/bridge: Add documentation sections Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 04/10] drm/bridge: Document the probe issue with MIPI-DSI bridges Maxime Ripard
2021-07-21 12:05   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-07-21 12:06     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-07-26 15:16     ` Maxime Ripard
2021-07-27  9:20       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-07-28 13:27         ` Maxime Ripard
2021-07-27  9:42   ` Jagan Teki
2021-07-28 13:35     ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2021-08-05 12:19       ` Jagan Teki
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 05/10] drm/panel: Create attach and detach callbacks Maxime Ripard
2021-07-22  7:53   ` Jagan Teki
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 06/10] drm/bridge: panel: Call attach and detach for the panel Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 07/10] drm/vc4: dsi: Switch to drm_of_get_next Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 08/10] drm/panel: raspberrypi-touchscreen: Prevent double-free Maxime Ripard
     [not found]   ` <YPcFrKLq1dhTcOUL@ravnborg.org>
2021-07-22  9:38     ` Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 09/10] drm/panel: raspberrypi-touchscreen: Use the attach hook Maxime Ripard
2021-07-20 13:45 ` [PATCH 10/10] drm/panel: raspberrypi-touchscreen: Remove MIPI-DSI driver Maxime Ripard

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