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Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , Arnd Bergmann , Kurt Kanzenbach , "Saleem, Shiraz" , "Ertman, David M" , "intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] ethernet/intel: fix PTP_1588_CLOCK dependencies Message-ID: <20210803155556.GD32663@hoboy.vegasvil.org> References: <20210802145937.1155571-1-arnd@kernel.org> <20210802164907.GA9832@hoboy.vegasvil.org> <20210802230921.GA13623@hoboy.vegasvil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 08:59:02AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > It may well be a lost cause, but a build fix is not the time to nail down > that decision. The fix I proposed (with the added MAY_USE_PTP_1588_CLOCK > symbol) is only two extra lines and leaves everything else working for the > moment. Well, then we'll have TWO ugly and incomprehensible Kconfig hacks, imply and MAY_USE. Can't we fix this once and for all? Seriously, "imply" has been nothing but a major PITA since day one, and all to save 22 kb. I can't think of another subsystem which tolerates so much pain for so little gain. Thanks, Richard > I would suggest we merge that first and then raise the question > about whether to give up on tinyfication on the summit list, there are a few > other things that have come up that would also benefit from trying less hard, > but if we overdo this, we can get to the point of hurting even systems that are > otherwise still well supported (64MB MIPS/ARMv5 SoCs, small boot partitions, > etc.). > > Arnd