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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	nic_swsd <nic_swsd@realtek.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Anthony Wong <anthony.wong@canonical.com>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH net-next v5 0/3] r8169: Implement dynamic ASPM mechanism for recent 1.0/2.5Gbps Realtek NICs
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 14:10:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211007191057.GA1252539@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAd53p409uhbor1ArZ=kfiMK2JRHVGVyYukDSSyDvFsVSs=ErQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:17:26PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 6:09 AM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 11:44:14PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> > > The purpose of the series is to get comments and reviews so we can merge
> > > and test the series in downstream kernel.
> > >
> > > The latest Realtek vendor driver and its Windows driver implements a
> > > feature called "dynamic ASPM" which can improve performance on it's
> > > ethernet NICs.
> > >
> > > Heiner Kallweit pointed out the potential root cause can be that the
> > > buffer is too small for its ASPM exit latency.
> >
> > I looked at the lspci data in your bugzilla
> > (https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214307).
> >
> > L1.2 is enabled, which requires the Latency Tolerance Reporting
> > capability, which helps determine when the Link will be put in L1.2.
> > IIUC, these are analogous to the DevCap "Acceptable Latency" values.
> > Zero latency values indicate the device will be impacted by any delay
> > (PCIe r5.0, sec 6.18).
> >
> > Linux does not currently program those values, so the values there
> > must have been set by the BIOS.  On the working AMD system, they're
> > set to 1048576ns, while on the broken Intel system, they're set to
> > 3145728ns.
> >
> > I don't really understand how these values should be computed, and I
> > think they depend on some electrical characteristics of the Link, so
> > I'm not sure it's *necessarily* a problem that they are different.
> > But a 3X difference does seem pretty large.
> >
> > So I'm curious whether this is related to the problem.  Here are some
> > things we could try on the broken Intel system:
> 
> Original network speed, tested via iperf3:
> TX: ~255 Mbps
> RX: ~490 Mbps
> 
> >   - What happens if you disable ASPM L1.2 using
> >     /sys/devices/pci*/.../link/l1_2_aspm?
> 
> TX: ~670 Mbps
> RX: ~670 Mbps
> 
> >   - If that doesn't work, what happens if you also disable PCI-PM L1.2
> >     using /sys/devices/pci*/.../link/l1_2_pcipm?
> 
> Same as only disables l1_2_aspm.
> 
> >   - If either of the above makes things work, then at least we know
> >     the problem is sensitive to L1.2.
> 
> Right now the downstream kernel disables ASPM L1.2 as workaround.
> 
> >   - Then what happens if you use setpci to set the LTR Latency
> >     registers to 0, then re-enable ASPM L1.2 and PCI-PM L1.2?  This
> >     should mean the Realtek device wants the best possible service and
> >     the Link probably won't spend much time in L1.2.
> 
> # setpci -s 01:00.0 ECAP_LTR+4.w=0x0
> # setpci -s 01:00.0 ECAP_LTR+6.w=0x0
> 
> Then re-enable ASPM L1.2, the issue persists - the network speed is
> still very slow.
> 
> >   - What happens if you set the LTR Latency registers to 0x1001
> >     (should be the same as on the AMD system)?
> 
> Same slow speed here.

Thanks a lot for indulging my curiosity and testing this.  So I guess
you confirmed that specifically ASPM L1.2 is the issue, which makes
sense given the current downstream kernel workaround.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-16 15:44 Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-16 15:44 ` [RFC] [PATCH net-next v5 1/3] PCI/ASPM: Introduce a new helper to report ASPM capability Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-16 15:44 ` [RFC] [PATCH net-next v5 2/3] r8169: Use PCIe ASPM status for NIC ASPM enablement Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-16 17:07   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-17  4:09     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-17 15:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-01  4:32         ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-16 15:44 ` [RFC] [PATCH net-next v5 3/3] r8169: Implement dynamic ASPM mechanism Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-16 17:12   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-17  4:19     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-09-17 22:09 ` [RFC] [PATCH net-next v5 0/3] r8169: Implement dynamic ASPM mechanism for recent 1.0/2.5Gbps Realtek NICs Bjorn Helgaas
2021-10-01  4:17   ` Kai-Heng Feng
2021-10-07 19:10     ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-10-08 13:56     ` Bjorn Helgaas

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