From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262114AbUEQVWN (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 May 2004 17:22:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262132AbUEQVWN (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 May 2004 17:22:13 -0400 Received: from mail8.fw-bc.sony.com ([160.33.98.75]:21239 "EHLO mail8.fw-bc.sony.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262114AbUEQVWI (ORCPT ); Mon, 17 May 2004 17:22:08 -0400 Message-ID: <40A92D15.2060006@am.sony.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 14:22:29 -0700 From: Tim Bird User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Hellwig CC: linux kernel Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: CE Linux Forum - Specification V1.0 draft References: <40A90D00.7000005@am.sony.com> <20040517201910.A1932@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20040517201910.A1932@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 12:05:36PM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: > >>I am writing to announce the availability of the first draft of >>the CE Linux Forum's first specification. This specification >>represents the efforts of six different technical working groups >>over about the last 9 months. > > > If you want my 2Cent: > > - stop these rather useless specifications and provide patchkits instead > - try to actually submit the patches upstream to get a feeling which > of your 'features' are compltely hopeless, which are okay and which > can better be solved in different ways. I should point out that some of the features specified have already been submitted as patchsets. Some were accepted and are in 2.6. Some were rejected, and we are considering the feedback received... (But, we're still hopeful that in the long run, we can make certain things acceptable for inclusion in the mainline tree.) The submissions, so far, have come from member companies or individuals rather than from the forum itself. ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Co-Chair CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer Sony Electronics E-mail: Tim.Bird@am.sony.com =============================