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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: CE Linux Forum - Specification V1.0 draft
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40ABC5AF.6070109@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040519201639.GF24287@fs.tum.de>

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> The main problem seems to be that you write much paper instead of 
> simply writing and testing code.

The specification you refer to consists of 4 sentences.  One
of them was normative.  The main goal is to communicate to
linux vendors and silicon vendors that CE companies are
interested in correct support of this option.  For the
platforms and code where this is not the default now, there
is a risk that -Os bugs might cause problems.

> Your approach might be a good solution for big projects, but if the 
> changes are relatively simple it's not very useful.

Verifying that something is supported correctly on multiple
architectures is not simple.  Yes, we know that the default
optimization level for ARM is -Os.  As recently as last month,
there was a problem report about -Os on the gcc mailing list.

I fail to see what it is about our communication (that we'd like
to see all platforms support -Os) that you find so offensive.

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Co-Chair
CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer
Sony Electronics
E-mail: Tim.Bird@am.sony.com
=============================


  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-19 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-17 19:05 Tim Bird
2004-05-17 19:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-17 19:59   ` Tim Bird
2004-05-17 20:42   ` Mark Gross
2004-05-17 20:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]     ` <20040518074854.A7348@infradead.org>
2004-05-18 19:32       ` Mark Gross
2004-05-18 19:56         ` Russell King
2004-05-18 20:45           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-18 20:00         ` viro
2004-05-19 19:30       ` Tim Bird
2004-05-19 21:57         ` Russell King
2004-05-19 22:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-19 23:46           ` Tim Bird
2004-05-19 22:08         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-19 23:37           ` Tim Bird
2004-05-17 21:22   ` Tim Bird
2004-05-19 15:27     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-05-19 16:59       ` Tim Bird
2004-05-19 20:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-05-19 20:38           ` Tim Bird [this message]
2004-05-19 20:48             ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-05-19 22:00         ` Russell King

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