From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264542AbUESUh4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 16:37:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264546AbUESUh4 (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 16:37:56 -0400 Received: from mail1.fw-sj.sony.com ([160.33.82.68]:41097 "EHLO mail1.fw-sj.sony.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264542AbUESUhw (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 May 2004 16:37:52 -0400 Message-ID: <40ABC5AF.6070109@am.sony.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:38:07 -0700 From: Tim Bird User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk , linux kernel Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: CE Linux Forum - Specification V1.0 draft References: <40A90D00.7000005@am.sony.com> <20040517201910.A1932@infradead.org> <40A92D15.2060006@am.sony.com> <20040519152706.GD22742@fs.tum.de> <40AB925C.50001@am.sony.com> <20040519201639.GF24287@fs.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <20040519201639.GF24287@fs.tum.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: > The main problem seems to be that you write much paper instead of > simply writing and testing code. The specification you refer to consists of 4 sentences. One of them was normative. The main goal is to communicate to linux vendors and silicon vendors that CE companies are interested in correct support of this option. For the platforms and code where this is not the default now, there is a risk that -Os bugs might cause problems. > Your approach might be a good solution for big projects, but if the > changes are relatively simple it's not very useful. Verifying that something is supported correctly on multiple architectures is not simple. Yes, we know that the default optimization level for ARM is -Os. As recently as last month, there was a problem report about -Os on the gcc mailing list. I fail to see what it is about our communication (that we'd like to see all platforms support -Os) that you find so offensive. ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Co-Chair CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer Sony Electronics E-mail: Tim.Bird@am.sony.com =============================