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From: Bryan Andersen <bryan@nerdvest.com>
To: Timothy Miller <theosib@hotmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, miller@techsource.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Linux stability despite unstable hardware
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:27:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40AF8D9B.2080904@nerdvest.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F135u0T4Dk5Je6000264da@hotmail.com>
Timothy Miller wrote:
> I have had some issues recently with memory errors when using aggressive
> memory timings. Although memory tests pass fine, gcc would tend to
> crash and would generate incorrect code when compiling other things. Gcc
> couldn't even build itself properly under those conditions.
>
> The really interesting thing is that the Linux kernel was totally
> unaffected. Compiling the Linux kernel is often thought of as a
> stressful thing for a system, yet compiling a kernel with a broken gcc
> on a system with intermittent memory errors goes through error free, and
> the kernel is 100% stable when running.
>
> But until the memory errors were fixed, things like KDE wouldn't build
> without gcc crashing.
>
> So, what is it about Linux that makes it build properly with a broken
> GCC and run perfectly despite memory errors?
It could just be heat buildup in an critical area when under sustained
heavy load. It may take a while for enough heat to build up to cause
problems. I just recently found one of these. It would take 4-6 hours
of heavy intensive processing before an error would happen. I placed a
fan pointing at the motherboard chipset and memory to keep them cooler
and the problem seams to have gone away.
For testing I wrote a script that kept compiling the kernel again and
agian in a while(true) loop. Effectively a repeat until crash loop.
For each compile it saved the stdout/stderr output and diffed it against
the first run. Any differnces were flagged for checking latter.
- Bryan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-22 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-21 21:57 Timothy Miller
2004-05-22 0:55 ` Rob Couto
2004-05-22 4:43 ` Horst von Brand
2004-05-22 6:12 ` Steve Dover
2004-05-22 17:27 ` Bryan Andersen [this message]
2004-05-24 15:10 ` Jesse Pollard
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-21 18:04 Timothy Miller
2004-05-22 22:46 ` Andrew Walrond
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