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* Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks
@ 2006-09-11 18:08 Michael Tokarev
  2006-09-11 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Tokarev @ 2006-09-11 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Linux-kernel

With current SATA, PATA and at least some USB disks,
Linux reports Vendor: $subsystem, instead of the actual
vendor of the drive, like this:

scsi1 : ata_piix
  Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3808110AS       Rev: n/a
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05

This should be Vendor: Seagate, not ATA (Note also the lack
of "Revision" field).  The same for PATA disk:

scsi0 : pata_via
  Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3120026A        Rev: 3.76
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05

The same is shown in /sys/block/$DEV/device/vendor.

Can it be changed to show real vendor, instead of the subsystem name?

Thanks.

/mjt

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* Re: Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks
  2006-09-11 18:08 Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks Michael Tokarev
@ 2006-09-11 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik
  2006-09-12 12:42   ` Tejun Heo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2006-09-11 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Tokarev; +Cc: Linux-kernel

Michael Tokarev wrote:
> With current SATA, PATA and at least some USB disks,
> Linux reports Vendor: $subsystem, instead of the actual
> vendor of the drive, like this:
> 
> scsi1 : ata_piix
>   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3808110AS       Rev: n/a
>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
> 
> This should be Vendor: Seagate, not ATA (Note also the lack
> of "Revision" field).  The same for PATA disk:
> 
> scsi0 : pata_via
>   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3120026A        Rev: 3.76
>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
> 
> The same is shown in /sys/block/$DEV/device/vendor.
> 
> Can it be changed to show real vendor, instead of the subsystem name?

No.  Two reasons:

* ATA doesn't export the vendor separate from the model, and in some 
cases (Seagate) it isn't present at all, anywhere.
* "ATA" vendor string is the standardized value to put in that field, 
according to the SCSI T10 specifications.

	Jeff




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* Re: Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks
  2006-09-11 19:34 ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2006-09-12 12:42   ` Tejun Heo
  2006-09-13  1:22     ` Jeff Garzik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tejun Heo @ 2006-09-12 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Garzik; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, Linux-kernel

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> With current SATA, PATA and at least some USB disks,
>> Linux reports Vendor: $subsystem, instead of the actual
>> vendor of the drive, like this:
>>
>> scsi1 : ata_piix
>>   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3808110AS       Rev: n/a
>>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
>>
>> This should be Vendor: Seagate, not ATA (Note also the lack
>> of "Revision" field).  The same for PATA disk:
>>
>> scsi0 : pata_via
>>   Vendor: ATA       Model: ST3120026A        Rev: 3.76
>>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 05
>>
>> The same is shown in /sys/block/$DEV/device/vendor.
>>
>> Can it be changed to show real vendor, instead of the subsystem name?
> 
> No.  Two reasons:
> 
> * ATA doesn't export the vendor separate from the model, and in some 
> cases (Seagate) it isn't present at all, anywhere.
> * "ATA" vendor string is the standardized value to put in that field, 
> according to the SCSI T10 specifications.

To add a small detail.  The reason it's printed that way is because 
libata (the new ATA driver) emulates SCSI device at the moment, so it 
has to fake SCSI vendor ID and model string, which BTW is shorter than 
ATA string and thus truncated in some cases.  The vendor ID "ATA" is 
defined in SAT (SCSI ATA translation) standard, IIRC.

For the time being, we'll have to live with boilerplate ATA vendor and 
truncated vendor ID.  There are plans to make libata independent from 
SCSI which should solve the problem but it will take quite some time.

-- 
tejun


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* Re: Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks
  2006-09-12 12:42   ` Tejun Heo
@ 2006-09-13  1:22     ` Jeff Garzik
  2006-09-13  1:28       ` Tejun Heo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Garzik @ 2006-09-13  1:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tejun Heo; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, Linux-kernel

Tejun Heo wrote:
> For the time being, we'll have to live with boilerplate ATA vendor and 
> truncated vendor ID.  There are plans to make libata independent from 

Truncated model ID, I presume you mean.


> SCSI which should solve the problem but it will take quite some time.

Since ATA does not distinguish between vendor and model, you can't 
really solve the problem.  Two high volume disk vendors don't bother to 
put a vendor name in the model string at all.

	Jeff




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* Re: Vendor field with USB, [SP]ATA etc-attached disks
  2006-09-13  1:22     ` Jeff Garzik
@ 2006-09-13  1:28       ` Tejun Heo
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tejun Heo @ 2006-09-13  1:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeff Garzik; +Cc: Michael Tokarev, Linux-kernel

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> For the time being, we'll have to live with boilerplate ATA vendor and 
>> truncated vendor ID.  There are plans to make libata independent from 
> 
> Truncated model ID, I presume you mean.

Yeap.

>> SCSI which should solve the problem but it will take quite some time.
> 
> Since ATA does not distinguish between vendor and model, you can't 
> really solve the problem.  Two high volume disk vendors don't bother to 
> put a vendor name in the model string at all.

I meant by being solved "not printing emulated SCSI stuff including 
vendor ID while printing model ID fully and other ATA stuff".

-- 
tejun

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