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From: Petr Vandrovec <>
To: Pierre Ossman <>
Cc: LKML <>
Subject: Re: NCPFS and brittle connections
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:43:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

Pierre Ossman wrote:
> Petr Vandrovec wrote:
>> Nobody is working on it (at least to my knowledge), and to me it is
>> feature - it always worked this way, like smbfs did back in the past -
>> if you send signal 9 to process using mount point, and there is some
>> transaction in progress, nobody can correctly finish that transaction
>> anymore.  Fixing it would require non-trivial amount of code, and
>> given that NCP itself is more or less dead protocol I do not feel that
>> it is necessary.
> Someone needs to tell our customers then so they'll stop using it. :)

When I asked at Brainshare 2001 when support for files over 4GB files 
will be added to NCP, they told me that I should switch to CIFS or 
NFS...  Years after that confirmed it - only NW6.5SP3 finally got NCPs 
to support for files over 4GB, although you could have such files even 
on NW5.

>> If you want to fix it, feel free.  Culprit is RQ_INPROGRESS handling
>> in ncp_abort_request - it just aborts whole connection so it does not
>> have to provide temporary buffers and special handling for reply - as
>> buffers currently specified as reply buffers are owned by caller, so
>> after aborting request you cannot use them anymore.
> Do you have any pointers to how it was solved with smbfs? Relevant
> patches perhaps? Provided a similar solution can be applied here.

I believe it was fixed when smbiod was introduced.  When find_request() 
returns failure, it simple throws away data received from network.

Unfortunately NCP does not run on top of TCP stream, but on top of 
IPX/UDP, and so dropping reply is not sufficient - you must continue 
resending request (so you must buffer it somewhere...) until you get 
result from server - after you receive answer from server, you can 
finally throw away both request & reply, and move on.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-05  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-04 15:04 Pierre Ossman
2007-01-04 17:26 ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-01-04 19:30   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-01-05  7:43     ` Petr Vandrovec [this message]
2007-01-24 15:27       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-01-24 17:49         ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-01-24 22:01           ` Pierre Ossman
2007-01-25  8:22             ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-01-25 10:20               ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-01  8:39                 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-04  6:00                 ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-02-04 17:17                   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-05  3:50                     ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-02-19 10:37                       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-20  2:47                         ` Petr Vandrovec
2007-02-20  6:37                           ` Pierre Ossman

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