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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:39:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45BEF61F.7000400@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070130065457.GA23390@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> i'm wondering, could we go with Thomas' temporary patch that disables
> sky2 MSI if CONFIG_PM is enabled - we could revert that after 2.6.20.
> It's not like MSI is a life and death feature. On IO-APIC systems
> vectors are abundant and in any case we share irqs just fine. The true
> advantage of MSI is minimal. (MSI-X has the potential to be better by
> being message based, but in reality it still goes through the full IRQ
> layer.) MSI might be useful on really, really large systems - but i
> really hope those really large systems dont rely on CONFIG_PM. Meanwhile
> Thomas' patch maximizes the amount of working hardware (it has the
> chance to produce working systems in 100% of the cases) - which is a few
> orders of magnitude more important than IRQ management micro-costs. Am i
> missing anything?
Sharing irqs /sucks/. I routinely have to fight a USB device dying,
because the ATA device is causing an interrupt storm, or vice versa.
/Very/ common headache.
Other than that, they use a tiny bit fewer CPU cycles, and allow
simplification of the interrupt handler (saving another few CPU cycles).
The biggest benefit is (a) for hardware designers, where MSI means a
cleaner h/w design, and (b) preparation of drivers and the kernel
systems for MSI-only hardware.
At present only high end hardware is MSI-only (like infiniband), but
that's the future direction.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-30 7:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-25 2:58 Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2007-01-25 10:09 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-25 11:10 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26 2:22 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-01-26 18:49 ` [2.6 patch] fix OCFS2 compile error Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 19:47 ` Mark Fasheh
2007-01-26 19:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:46 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - build failure Mark Fasheh
2007-01-25 17:50 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 Arkadiusz Patyk
2007-01-25 21:05 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-25 21:12 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 16:52 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:10 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:11 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-26 18:16 ` Malte Schröder
2007-01-27 17:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-26 19:04 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-01-26 19:08 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2007-01-26 18:18 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches Adrian Bunk
2007-01-29 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 12:58 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-27 17:32 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 1) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 17:42 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known unfixed regressions (v2) (part 2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-28 13:33 ` Uwe Bugla
2007-01-29 6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29 7:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-01-29 7:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-27 17:44 ` 2.6.20-rc6: known regressions with patches (v2) Adrian Bunk
2007-01-27 20:47 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - supend lockdep warning Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 20:55 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 19:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 20:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 21:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 22:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-29 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-29 23:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:16 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-30 0:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 6:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 7:39 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-01-30 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 8:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 15:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-31 17:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 20:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 8:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-02-01 6:15 ` [LIBATA BUG] sr.c: TEST_UNIT_READY error Conke Hu
2007-02-07 12:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-02-02 5:48 ` Conke Hu
2007-02-13 7:30 ` Conke Hu
2007-02-15 6:30 ` Conke Hu
2007-01-30 8:57 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage Len Brown
2007-01-30 16:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-01-30 21:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-02-01 12:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-29 23:42 ` [PATCH] sky2: fix MSI related " Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:38 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 " Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 22:50 ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 22:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:26 ` Frédéric Riss
2007-01-29 23:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-29 23:50 ` [PATCH] block MSI on Sony Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 0:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-30 0:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-01-30 0:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:11 ` Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - suspend / resume ata_piix Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-27 22:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-27 22:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-01-28 22:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
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