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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Ian Pratt <ian.pratt@xensource.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:04:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D55784.1020000@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D54BD5.8010707@vmware.com>

Dan Hecht wrote:
> 1) Complete the xen paravirt-ops backend so it can handle these
> "incompatible" options.  I realize this is just a matter of time (at
> least for most of them, what is your plan for PREEMPT?).

Hope it will go away?  There's some relatively deep reason to do with
migration which makes preempt very difficult to support, but I've
forgotten the details.  I've been wondering if there's some way to make
it runtime selectable without massive performance cost.

> 2) Disable the option at runtime only if the kernel is booted on Xen.
> When the kernel is booted on native, lhype, paravirt kvm, vmware, etc
> it should be not be inhibited.  This may not be feasible for all of
> these options, but as Zach pointed out, is easy enough for
> DOUBLEFAULT.  Maybe it can be done for KEXEC?  And HZ is easy to allow
> too, even though Xen will still give interrupts at 100hz -- we do this
> when you boot on VMI.  PREEMPT is probably the only real compile time
> incompatible options with Xen.  You just simply have to change the
> loop decrementors in your timer interrupt.
>
> You basically chose #2 for SMP: while your backend doesn't support it
> yet, it's not harmful to have the config option enabled; you just
> don't allow a second vcpu to startup when running on Xen.

Yes, this has been my preferred approach.  So for each of the restrictions:
PREEMPT - hard, will try to do something at runtime
HZ - I'm assuming dynticks will appear in the short term, and this will
become moot
KEXEC - there's been some work on making KEXEC and Xen play nicely
together; I was waiting to see if that matures, and/or make it runtime
switchable in the meantime
DOUBLEFAULT - not really an issue; guests won't get them under Xen (I
think) and we can ignore setting the gate pretty easily

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-16  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-16  2:24 [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 01/21] Xen-paravirt: Fix typo in sync_constant_test_bit()s name Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 02/21] Xen-paravirt: ignore vgacon if hardware not present Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 03/21] Xen-paravirt: Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 04/21] Xen-paravirt: =================================================================== Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  9:12   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 17:32     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 05/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 06/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 07/21] Xen-paravirt: remove ctor for pgd cache Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  8:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-02-16  9:19     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16 17:19       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 23:33     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 08/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 09/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to select PGD allocation alignment Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 10/21] Xen-paravirt: add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:55     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:16   ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-22 20:21     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:23     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 11/21] Xen-paravirt: Add apply_to_page_range() which applies a function to a pte range Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:31     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 12/21] Xen-paravirt: Allocate and free vmalloc areas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:43   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:08     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:24       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:49           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  9:18           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 11:10             ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 11:34               ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 16:46             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:10               ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:12                 ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:27                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 19:06                     ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:19                       ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:26                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:29                           ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 23:41                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:26                 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-02-16  7:48         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 13/21] Xen-paravirt: Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:06   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:14   ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  7:04     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-02-16  7:52       ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  8:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  8:37           ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16 10:49             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:25       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 10:09         ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:19           ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 10:44             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17  4:04             ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16  6:15   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  7:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:14       ` Ian Campbell
2007-02-16  8:24         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:31           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 13:53       ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2007-02-18 11:32     ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 16/21] Xen-paravirt: Core Xen implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 17/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual console driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:48   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 18/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen grant table support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:58     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 19/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 20/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 21/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual network " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:59 ` [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:20   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:48       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:59         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 22:10           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17 13:51           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-21 18:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-21 18:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-21 20:02               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  5:05         ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16 23:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  4:58   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <20070213221729.772002682@goop.org>
     [not found] ` <20070213221830.542511707@goop.org>
2007-02-13 22:53   ` [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Dan Hecht
2007-02-13 23:29     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-13 23:58       ` Dan Hecht

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