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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: dirty balancing deadlock
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:25:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D8C43A.3060800@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070218125307.4103c04a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:28:18 +0100 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> 
>> I was testing the new fuse shared writable mmap support, and finding
>> that bash-shared-mapping deadlocks (which isn't so strange ;).  What
>> is more strange is that this is not an OOM situation at all, with
>> plenty of free and cached pages.
>>
>> A little more investigation shows that a similar deadlock happens
>> reliably with bash-shared-mapping on a loopback mount, even if only
>> half the total memory is used.
>>
>> The cause is slightly different in the two cases:
>>
>>   - loopback mount: allocation by the underlying filesystem is stalled
>>     on throttle_vm_writeout()
>>
>>   - fuse-loop: page dirtying on the underlying filesystem is stalled on
>>     balance_dirty_pages()
>>
>> In both cases the underlying fs is totally innocent, with no
>> dirty/writback pages, yet it's waiting for the global dirty+writeback
>> to go below the threshold, which obviously won't, until the
>> allocation/dirtying succeeds.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure what the solution is, and asking for thoughts.
> 
> But....  these things don't just throttle.  They also perform large amounts
> of writeback, which causes the dirty levels to subside.
> 
>>From your description it appears that this writeback isn't happening, or
> isn't working.  How come?

Is the fuse daemon trying to do writeback to itself, perhaps?

That is, trying to write out data to the FUSE filesystem, for which
it is also the server.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-18 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-18 18:28 Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-18 21:25   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-02-18 22:54     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 22:50   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 22:59     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-18 23:22       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-18 23:59         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19  0:25           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19  0:30             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19  0:45             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19  0:45             ` Chris Mason
2007-02-19  0:54               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19  1:01                 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-19  1:14                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20  0:16                     ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20  8:53                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 17:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-19 23:12             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20  0:13             ` Chris Mason
2007-02-20  8:47               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-20 11:30                 ` Chris Mason
2007-02-21 21:36             ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-22  7:42               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-02-22  7:55                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-22  8:02                   ` Miklos Szeredi

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