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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Hiro Yoshioka <hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com>
Cc: davej@redhat.com, harlan@artselect.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	l_allegrucci@yahoo.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@elte.hu, suparna@in.ibm.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: SMP performance degradation with sysbench
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:31:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45E3B421.603@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070227.130305.424251739.hyoshiok@miraclelinux.com>

Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
>> Hiro Yoshioka wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> MySQL 5.0.26 had some scalability issues and it solved since 5.0.32
>>> http://ossipedia.ipa.go.jp/capacity/EV0612260303/
>>> (written in Japanese but you may read the graph. We compared
>>> 5.0.24 vs 5.0.32)
> snip
>>> MySQL tries to get a mutex but it spends about 16.8% of CPU on 8 core
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> I think there are a lot of room to be inproved in MySQL implementation.
>> That's one aspect.
>>
>> The other aspect of the problem is that when the number of
>> threads exceeds the number of CPU cores, Linux no longer
>> manages to keep the CPUs busy and we get a lot of idle time.
>>
>> On the other hand, with the number of threads being equal to
>> the number of CPU cores, we are 100% CPU bound...
> 
> I have a question. If so, what is the difference of kernel's
> view between SMP and CPU cores?

None.  Each schedulable entity (whether a fully fledged
CPU core or an SMT/HT thread) is treated the same.

> Another question. When the number of threads exceeds the number of
> CPU cores, we may get a lot of idle time. Then a workaround of
> MySQL is that do not creat threads which exceeds the number
> of CPU cores. Is it right?

Not really, that would make it impossible for MySQL to
handle more simultaneous database queries than the system
has CPUs.

Besides, it looks like this is not a problem in MySQL
per se (it works on FreeBSD) but some bug in Linux.

-- 
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the best in the world, and those who believe it already is.  Each group
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-27  4:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-25 17:44 Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-02-25 23:46 ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-26 13:36   ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-26 13:41     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-26 22:04     ` Pete Harlan
2007-02-26 22:36       ` Dave Jones
2007-02-27  0:32         ` Hiro Yoshioka
2007-02-27  0:43           ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-27  4:03             ` Hiro Yoshioka
2007-02-27  4:31               ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2007-02-27  8:14                 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-02-27 14:02                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-02-27 14:56                     ` Paulo Marques
2007-02-27 20:40                       ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-28  2:21                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-28  2:52                         ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-01  0:20                           ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-27 19:05                     ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-03-01 16:57                       ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2007-02-28  1:27     ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-02-28  2:22       ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-28  2:51         ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-12 22:00     ` Anton Blanchard
2007-03-13  5:11       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13  9:45         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 10:06           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 10:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 10:37               ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 10:57                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 11:12                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 11:40                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-13 11:56                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-13 11:42                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-03-13 12:02                       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-13 12:27                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-03-13 12:08                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-14 23:33                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-03-20  2:29                           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-04-02  2:59                             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-03-13  6:00       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-14  0:36       ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-03-14  1:00         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-14  1:09           ` Nish Aravamudan
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2007-02-28  0:20           ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-28  1:32             ` Hiro Yoshioka

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