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From: Tasos Parisinos <t.parisinos@sciensis.com>
To: Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>
Cc: Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/1] crypto API: RSA algorithm patch (kernel   version 2.6.20.1)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:07:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46012E1A.3030309@sciensis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3118.81.207.0.53.1174480598.squirrel@secure.samage.net>


> On Wed, March 21, 2007 10:15, Tasos Parisinos wrote:
>   
>> Protecting a TripleDES key in high security standards is not as
>> simple as making the kernel read
>> protected, you need a whole lot and
>> that also means hardware (cryptomemories e.t.c)
>> So you forget about all this overhead when you use assymetric
>>     
>
> Ah, you're talking about fishing the key out of RAM here, right?
> My point stays the same for that: If you can't read protect the
> kernel RAM, small chance you can write protect it. And then they
> can just bypass all signature checking you put in it anyway.
>   

How can one tamper (write) the kernel memory of a booted and running kernel
without using an exploitable bug?

I mean, you can't mess with the bzImage on flash, the secure bootloader 
boots it without
letting someone alter the (non crypto-) memory while loading the bzImage 
on it, and then
no-one can run something that will tamper the system or write anywhere 
on kernel memory
without exploiting a bug

I mean, am i missing something here?



  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-21 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-19 16:22 Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-19 22:58 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-20 14:44   ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-20 15:15     ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-20 16:36       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-20 15:43   ` Paulo Marques
2007-03-20  0:40 ` Francois Romieu
2007-03-20 14:11   ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-20 15:09     ` James Morris
2007-03-20 15:40       ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-20 21:43     ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21  9:15       ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-21 12:08         ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 12:34           ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-21 13:00             ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 23:31           ` David Schwartz
2007-03-22 13:15             ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 12:36         ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 13:07           ` Tasos Parisinos [this message]
2007-03-21 13:59             ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 14:31               ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-21 15:10                 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-21 15:50                   ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-21 16:36                     ` Indan Zupancic
2007-03-22  7:47                       ` Tasos Parisinos
2007-03-21 14:49               ` Tasos Parisinos

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