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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@freebsd.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Make the IDE DMA timeout modifiable
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:03:58 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4697DAAE.5090704@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4697D686.6090104@rtr.ca>

Mark Lord wrote:

>>>>    The original question concerned specifically the DMA command 
>>>> timeout which is twice more than the usual one, WAIT_CMD (10 seconds)...

>>> When a drive is in standby, we don't send it anything special to wake 
>>> up.
>>> So even DMA commands have to have a long enough timeout to allow
>>> for spinning up.

>>    Yes, but why *twice* as long as the others?

> I would guess simply because DMA has to transfer up to 256 sectors of data,
> possibly with sector reallocations, in addition to waiting for the drive
> to spin up.  Other commands don't.

    What?! PIO commands don't have to do this as well? :-)

> At the time that was coded (?), I suspect that PIO READ/WRITE commands
> were fed data as it became available to/from the drive.  This may or may

    I don't see *any* difference with the DMA commands here -- the drive has 
always been free to assert and deassert DMARQ at its well.

> not still be the case, but it does imply that they don't need to hang
> around as long on the timeouts as do DMA commands (which have to wait
> for *everything* to be transferred).

    Ah, that makes sense -- during PIO interrupts happen a lot more often.
20 secs still seem to be too much.

> Cheers

MBR, Sergei

PS: Your mail server still keeps bouncing me off. :-(

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-13 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  1:19 Suleiman Souhlal
2007-02-21  1:44 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-21  2:13   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2007-02-21  2:42     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-12 19:11       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-15 23:23         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-10 19:10           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 15:16             ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 15:12               ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 15:21                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 19:36                   ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 19:40                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 19:46                       ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 20:03                         ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-07-13 21:00                           ` Mark Lord
2007-07-16 19:29                             ` Rogier Wolff
2007-07-17 14:18                               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 20:08                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 20:54                       ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 21:00                         ` Mark Lord

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