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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
Cc: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@freebsd.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Make the IDE DMA timeout modifiable
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:18:37 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469CCFBD.4030708@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070716192925.GA10124@bitwizard.nl>

Hello.

Rogier Wolff wrote:

>>>  Ah, that makes sense -- during PIO interrupts happen a lot more often.
>>>20 secs still seem to be too much.

>>I don't think so, even for modern drives.
>>Figure 8-10 seconds max for spin-up,
>>plus 6-9 seconds to do a sector re-assignment
>>or retries on a bad block (a measured *real-life* value).

>>That adds up to 14-19 seconds, so 20 seconds is probably good.

>>Still, this does need to be adjustable for faster (CF) devices,
>>and slower (optical/tape) devices, rather than just a single
>>set of fixed timeout values.

> In real life, with real bad blocks on real harddrives, some harddrives
> take more than the DMA TIMEOUT time to read a single block, even without
> having to spin up. 

   Yeah, "shit happens".

> The current code then resets the drive, on which the drive reports
> "busy, not ready for command", and things go downhill from there. 

    You are clearly mixing things: this message is a result of retrying 
command in PIO mode (that fails because the drive is still busy), and then the 
drives are actually reset. If they keep being busy *after* that, all I'd say 
is dump them ASAP. ;-)

> 	Roger. 

MBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-21  1:19 Suleiman Souhlal
2007-02-21  1:44 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-21  2:13   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2007-02-21  2:42     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-12 19:11       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-15 23:23         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-10 19:10           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 15:16             ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 15:12               ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 15:21                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 19:36                   ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 19:40                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 19:46                       ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 20:03                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 21:00                           ` Mark Lord
2007-07-16 19:29                             ` Rogier Wolff
2007-07-17 14:18                               ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-07-13 20:08                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-13 20:54                       ` Mark Lord
2007-07-13 21:00                         ` Mark Lord

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