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From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: vgoyal@in.ibm.com, k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com,
	Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:26:13 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46B051B5.6020207@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1fy35t665.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com> writes:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> IMHO, most users don't use kdump, kdump users are only kernel developers and
>> enterprise users. 
> 
> Not at all.  So far the only kdump related bug report I have seen has
> been from fedora Core.

Sorry, I thought general users push reset button when the machine is
panicked. :-(

> No.  The problem with your patch is that it doesn't have a code
> impact.  We need to see who is using this and why.

My motivation is very simple. I want to use both kdb and kdump, but I think it
is too weak to satisfy kexec guys. Then I brought up the example enterprise
software. But it isn't a lie. I know some drivers which use panic_notifier.
IMHO, they use only major distribution, and they has the workaround or they
don't notice this problem yet. I think they will be in trouble if all
distributions choose only kdump.

BTW, I use kdb and lkcd now, but I want to use kdb and kdump. I sent a patch to
kdb community but it was rejected. kdb maintainer Keith Owens said,

> Both KDB and crash_kexec should be using the panic_notifier_chain, with
> KDB having a higher priority than crash_exec.  The whole point of
> notifier chains is to handle cases like this, so we should not be
> adding more code to the panic routine.
> 
> The real problem here is the way that the crash_exec code is hard coded
> into various places instead of using notifier chains.  The same issue
> exists in arch/ia64/kernel/mca.c because of bad coding practices from
> kexec.

Then I gave up to merge my patch to kdb, and I tried to send another patch to
kexec community. I can understand his opinion, but it is very difficult to
modify that kdump is called from panic_notifier. Because it has a reason why
kdump don't use panic_notifier. So, I made this patch.

Please do something about this problem.

Thanks,

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-01  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19 12:15 Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 14:07 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:32   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:34     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:44       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:47         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 16:14             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 23:28             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-30  9:16               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30 13:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  5:55                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  6:53                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01  9:26                       ` Takenori Nagano [this message]
2007-08-01 10:00                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-02  8:11                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02 11:28                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-03  4:05                             ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:34                                 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  7:37                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-05 11:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14  8:34                                 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:37                                   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:48                                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:53                                       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14 13:24                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-16  9:26                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:45                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-17 10:56                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21  7:45                                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-23  3:52                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21 13:18                                           ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:21                                             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-23  3:56                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23 17:34                                               ` Jay Lan

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