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From: "Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
	?????? ??????????? <penguinista@mail.net.mk>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Subject: Re: PCIE ASPM support hangs my laptop pretty often
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:46:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47AA2AAE.3040101@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200802061825.21692.rjw@sisk.pl>

Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 6 of February 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> On Tue 2008-02-05 16:22:55, Kok, Auke wrote:
>>> ?????? ??????????? wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've patched my kernel with the PCIe ASPM and after setting
>>>>>>>> echo powersave > /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I started to experience random hangs of my laptop.
>>>>>>>> Hardware info:
>>>>>>>> Thinkpad x60s 1704-5UG
>>>>>>> the x60's chipset doesn't support ASPM properly afaik... bad idea.
>>>>>> Well, the code shouldn't then cause a crash of the machine :)
>>>>> The user enabled it specifically (where it is disabled by default)
>>>>>
>>>>> ASPM has been crashing e1000(e), which is why I've recently merged a patch
>>>>> to disable L1 ASPM for the onboard 82573 nic on those platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> this new infrastructure should work in the default configuration - enabling
>>>>> ASPM where this system leaves it disabled is expected to give problems
>>>>> unless you know what you are doing.
>>>> In my defense, the patch documentation didn't say it doesn't work with my 
>>>> hardware, nor that it hangs the chipset :) and the promised 1.3w surelly 
>>>> looked nice.
>>>>
>>>> So, are there any benefits of ASPM if I have it in the kernel but it's set to 
>>>> default? I got the impression that "default" means not much power savings?
>>> did the Kconfig not come with a big fat (EXPERIMENTAL) ?
>> (EXPERIMENTAL) is something different from (KNOWN BROKEN).
>>
>> If we know about broken setups, we should probably be blacklisting
>> them.
> 
> Well, the ASPM thing seems to break every single setup I've tested.  So,
> perhaps we should whitelist the working ones?

greg KH is reverting this patch alltogether in mainline, maybe the original writer
can accomodate some of the comments in the rewrite.

Auke



  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-06 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-05 17:40 Дамјан Георгиевски
2008-02-05 18:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-05 18:51   ` Greg KH
2008-02-05 20:58     ` Kok, Auke
2008-02-06  0:05       ` Дамјан Георгиевски
2008-02-06  0:22         ` Kok, Auke
2008-02-06 13:00           ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-06 17:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-06 21:46               ` Kok, Auke [this message]
2008-02-06 21:58                 ` Greg KH
2008-02-19  5:55 ` Shaohua Li

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