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From: Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Divyesh Shah <dpshah@google.com>,
	Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	taka@valinux.co.jp, righi.andrea@gmail.com,
	s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com, fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	menage@google.com, ngupta@google.com, riel@redhat.com,
	jmoyer@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	Fabio Checconi <fchecconi@gmail.com>,
	paolo.valente@unimore.it
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:42:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492271EF.4050002@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e98e18940811172101na345b6bh5c73f9e657aac5a7@mail.gmail.com>

Nauman Rafique wrote:
> If we start with bfq patches, this is how plan would look like:
> 
> 1 Start with BFQ take 2.
> 2 Do the following to support proportional division:
>  a) Expose the per device weight interface to user, instead of calculating
>  from priority.
>  b) Add support for disk time budgets, besides sector budget that is currently
>  available (configurable option). (Fabio: Do you think we can just emulate
> that using the existing code?). Another approach would be to give time slices
> just like CFQ (discussing?)
> 4 Do the following to support the goals of 2 level schedulers:
>  a) Limit the request descriptors allocated to each cgroup by adding
>  functionality to elv_may_queue()
>  b) Add support for putting an absolute limit on IO consumed by a
>  cgroup. Such support is provided by Andrea
>  Righi's patches too.
>  c) Add support (configurable option) to keep track of total disk
> time/sectors/count
>  consumed at each device, and factor that into scheduling decision
>  (more discussion needed here)
> 6 Incorporate an IO tracking approach which re-uses memory resource
> controller code but is not dependent on it (may be biocgroup patches from
> dm-ioband can be used here directly)

The newest bio_cgroup doesn't use much memcg code I think. The older biocgroup
tracks IO using mem_cgroup_charge(), and mem_cgroup_charge() remembers a struct page
owns by which cgroup. But now biocgroup changes to directly put some hooks in
__set_page_dirty() and some other places to track pages.

> 7 Start an offline email thread to keep track of progress on the above
> goals.
> 
> BFQ's support for hierarchy of cgroups means that its close to where
> we want to get. Any comments on what approach looks better?
> 

Looks like a sane way :) . We are also trying to keep track of the discussion and
development of IO controller. I'll start to have a look into BFQ.

> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:44:22PM -0800, Nauman Rafique wrote:
>>>> In an attempt to make sure that this discussion leads to
>>>> something useful, we have summarized the points raised in this
>>>> discussion and have come up with a strategy for future.
>>>> The goal of this is to find common ground between all the approaches
>>>> proposed on this mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> 1 Start with Satoshi's latest patches.
>>> I have had a brief look at both Satoshi's patch and bfq. I kind of like
>>> bfq's patches for keeping track of per cgroup, per queue data structures.
>>> May be we can look there also.
>>>
>>>> 2 Do the following to support propotional division:
>>>>  a) Give time slices in proportion to weights (configurable
>>>>  option). We can support both priorities and weights by doing
>>>>  propotional division between requests with same priorities.
>>>> 3 Schedule time slices using WF2Q+ instead of round robin.
>>>>  Test the performance impact (both throughput and jitter in latency).
>>>> 4 Do the following to support the goals of 2 level schedulers:
>>>>  a) Limit the request descriptors allocated to each cgroup by adding
>>>>  functionality to elv_may_queue()
>>>>  b) Add support for putting an absolute limit on IO consumed by a
>>>>  cgroup. Such support exists in dm-ioband and is provided by Andrea
>>>>  Righi's patches too.
>>> Does dm-iobnd support abosolute limit? I think till last version they did
>>> not. I have not check the latest version though.
>>>
>> No, dm-ioband still provides weight/share control only. Only Andrea Righi's
>> patches support absolute limit.
> 
> Thanks for the correction.
> 
>>>>  c) Add support (configurable option) to keep track of total disk
>>>> time/sectors/count
>>>>  consumed at each device, and factor that into scheduling decision
>>>>  (more discussion needed here)
>>>> 5 Support multiple layers of cgroups to align IO controller behavior
>>>>  with CPU scheduling behavior (more discussion?)
>>>> 6 Incorporate an IO tracking approach which re-uses memory resource
>>>> controller code but is not dependent on it (may be biocgroup patches from
>>>> dm-ioband can be used here directly)
>>>> 7 Start an offline email thread to keep track of progress on the above
>>>> goals.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to add/modify items to the list
>>>> when you respond back. Any comments/suggestions are more than welcome.
>>>>
>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-06 15:30 vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 1/4] io controller: documentation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:32   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-10  2:48   ` Li Zefan
2008-11-10 13:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 2/4] io controller: biocgroup implementation vgoyal
2008-11-07  2:50   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07  4:19     ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-11-07 14:44     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic vgoyal
2008-11-07  3:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07 14:50     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-08  2:35       ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementationlogic KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-11  8:50   ` [patch 3/4] io controller: Core IO controller implementation logic Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-06 15:30 ` [patch 4/4] io controller: Put IO controller to use in device mapper and standard make_request() function vgoyal
2008-11-06 15:49 ` [patch 0/4] [RFC] Another proportional weight IO controller Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:01   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 16:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-06 16:57           ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-06 17:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07  0:41               ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-07 10:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-09  9:40                   ` Dave Chinner
2008-11-06 17:08           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-06 23:07             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-07 14:19               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-07 21:36                 ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-10 14:11                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-11 19:55                     ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-11 22:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-12 21:20                         ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 13:49                           ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 18:08                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 19:15                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-13 22:27                               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-13 23:10                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-14  4:58                             ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-14  8:02                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-14 10:06                                 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-11-06 16:47       ` Rik van Riel
2008-11-07  2:36 ` Gui Jianfeng
2008-11-07 13:38   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13  9:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-13 15:58   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 18:41     ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-13 21:46       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-13 22:57         ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-14 16:05           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-14 22:44             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-17 14:23               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18  2:02                 ` Li Zefan
2008-11-18  5:01                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18  7:42                     ` Li Zefan [this message]
2008-11-18 22:23                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 12:05                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 14:07                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 14:41                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 19:12                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-18 19:47                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-18 21:14                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  1:52                               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-19 10:17                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 11:06                                   ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-20  4:45                                     ` Aaron Carroll
2008-11-20  6:56                                       ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19 14:30                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-19 15:52                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 23:07                             ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-19 14:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20  0:12                                 ` Divyesh Shah
2008-11-20  8:16                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-20 13:40                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 19:54                                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-20 21:15                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 22:42                                           ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-21 15:22                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-26  6:40                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 15:18                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20 21:31                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21  3:05                             ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-21 14:58                               ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-21 15:21                                 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-18 22:33                       ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-18 23:44                         ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-19  7:09                         ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-13 22:13     ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-20  9:20       ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-20 13:47         ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25  2:33           ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-25 16:27             ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-25 22:38               ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 14:06                 ` Paolo Valente
2008-11-26 19:41                   ` Nauman Rafique
2008-11-26 22:21                     ` Fabio Checconi
2008-11-26 11:55               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-26 12:47               ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-26 16:08                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-11-27  8:43                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-11-28  3:09                     ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-11-28 13:33                   ` Ryo Tsuruta

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