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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Arthur Jones <ajones@riverbed.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"sct@redhat.com" <sct@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext3: wait on all pending commits in ext3_sync_fs
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:56:36 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49510A34.10102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081222225757.GV5000@webber.adilger.int>
Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2008 14:15 -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> Without having dived into the patch in detail, one worry I would have is
>> that we still might care to spin up a drive for empty transactions in
>> order to invalidate the drive's write cache.
>>
>> For example, if we have the following sequence:
>>
>> (1) user app performs series of writes to file A
>> (2) pages dirtied from writes to A are destaged to the disk over time
>> (3) user app issues fsync(file A) to make sure that the data will
>> survive a power outage
>>
>> At this point in time, would this change prevent us from spinning up the
>> drive and invalidating the disk write cache for that fsync() ?
>
> Well, if the writes themselves didn't spin up the drive, it is uncertain
> whether the write of the journal commit block would be any more helpful
> in getting that to happen.
So, ext4_sync_file() calls blkdev_issue_flush() which would should do
the right thing even if the drive is spun down, I think (rather than
hoping that some other journal activity would flush this out...)
I guess I don't know for sure what blkdev_issue_flush does on a
spun-down drive but I'd hope it does the right thing.
Pretty sure I sent a patch for ext3 to do the same, but it was
ignored/dropped/forgotten along with the barriers-by-default patch.
Suppose I could try again.
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-23 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20081024183733.GA25797@ajones-laptop.nbttech.com>
2008-10-27 16:54 ` ext3: slow symlink corruption on umount Arthur Jones
2008-10-29 19:54 ` Arthur Jones
2008-10-29 20:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-10-29 21:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-30 13:38 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-10-30 13:55 ` Arthur Jones
2008-10-31 9:47 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-30 17:40 ` Arthur Jones
2008-10-30 18:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-10-30 21:34 ` Arthur Jones
2008-10-31 17:24 ` Arthur Jones
2008-10-31 18:37 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-10-30 18:32 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 18:44 ` [PATCH] ext3: wait on all pending commits in ext3_sync_fs Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 19:33 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 20:14 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 20:37 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 20:58 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 21:19 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-03 21:27 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 21:48 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-03 22:01 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-03 22:18 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 22:27 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 22:55 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-03 23:01 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 23:12 ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-04 16:26 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 21:48 ` Arthur Jones
2008-11-03 22:47 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-18 23:17 ` Jan Kara
2008-12-18 23:37 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-19 0:27 ` Jan Kara
2008-12-19 1:34 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-12-22 19:15 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-12-22 22:57 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-12-23 0:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-12-23 15:56 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-01-12 22:28 ` Jan Kara
2009-01-13 17:21 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-01-13 22:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-01-14 4:24 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14 17:26 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-01-14 17:27 ` Jan Kara
2009-01-29 18:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2009-01-29 20:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-11-03 19:59 ` Eric Sandeen
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