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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>,
	Anton Salikhmetov <salikhmetov@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC][BUG] updating the ctime and mtime time stamps in msync()
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:48:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5273.1199998102@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:41:41 EST." <20080109184141.287189b8@bree.surriel.com>

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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:41:41 EST, Rik van Riel said:

> I guess a third possible time (if we want to minimize the number of
> updates) would be when natural syncing of the file data to disk, by
> other things in the VM, would be about to clear the I_DIRTY_PAGES
> flag on the inode.  That way we do not need to remember any special
> "we already flushed all dirty data, but we have not updated the mtime
> and ctime yet" state.
> 
> Does this sound reasonable?

Is it possible that a *very* large file (multi-gigabyte or even bigger database,
for example) would never get out of I_DIRTY_PAGES, because there's always a
few dozen just-recently dirtied pages that haven't made it out to disk yet?

Of course, getting a *consistent* backup of a file like that is quite the
challenge already, because of the high likelyhood of the file being changed
while the backup runs - that's why big sites often do a 'quiesce/snapshot/wakeup'
on a database and then backup the snapshot...


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-10 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-07 17:54 Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-09 11:32 ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-09 11:47   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-09 12:22   ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-09 14:41   ` Jesper Juhl
2008-01-09 15:31     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-09 21:28   ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-09 20:50 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-09 21:01   ` Klaus S. Madsen
2008-01-09 21:06   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 22:06     ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-09 22:19       ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-09 22:33       ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-09 23:41         ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-10  0:03           ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-10  8:51             ` Jakob Oestergaard
2008-01-10 10:53               ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-10 15:45                 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-10 15:56                   ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-10 16:07                     ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-10 16:40                       ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-10 16:52                         ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-10 16:46                       ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-10 20:48           ` Valdis.Kletnieks [this message]
2008-01-10  0:48       ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-10  0:40   ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-09 21:18 ` Peter Staubach

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