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From: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>
To: Stathis Voukelatos <stathis.voukelatos@linn.co.uk>
Cc: Stathis Voukelatos <stathisv70@gmail.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"abrestic@chromium.org" <abrestic@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Linn Ethernet Packet Sniffer driver
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:10:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C612A5.2000208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54C60DB8.1060900@linn.co.uk>
Hi Stathis,
On 01/26/2015 10:49 AM, Stathis Voukelatos wrote:
> On 23/01/15 11:20, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> On 01/23/2015 11:07 AM, Stathis Voukelatos wrote:
>>> This patch adds support the Ethernet Packet Sniffer H/W module
>>> developed by Linn Products Ltd and found in the IMG Pistachio SoC.
>>> The module allows Ethernet packets to be parsed, matched against
>>> a user-defined pattern and timestamped. It sits between a 100M
>>> Ethernet MAC and PHY and is completely passive with respect to
>>> Ethernet frames.
>>>
>>> Matched packet bytes and timestamp values are returned through a
>>> FIFO. Timestamps are provided to the module through an externally
>>> generated Gray-encoded counter.
>>>
>>> The command pattern for packet matching is stored in module RAM
>>> and consists of a sequence of 16-bit entries. Each entry includes
>>> an 8-bit command code and and 8-bit data value. Valid command
>>> codes are:
>>> 0 - Don't care
>>> 1 - Match: packet data must match command string byte
>>> 2 - Copy: packet data will be copied to FIFO
>>> 3 - Match/Stamp: if packet data matches string byte, a timestamp
>>> is copied into the FIFO
>>> 4 - Copy/Done: packet data will be copied into the FIFO.
>>> This command terminates the command string.
>>>
>>> The driver consists of two modules:
>>> - Core: it provides an API to user space using the Generic Netlink
>>> framework. Specific backend implementations, like the
>>> Ethernet Packet Sniffer, register one or more channels
>>> with the Core. For each channel a Genl family is created.
>>> User space can access a channel by sending Genl messages
>>> to the Genl family associated with the channel. Packet
>>> matching events are multicast.
>>>
>>> - Ethernet Packet Sniffer backend: provides the driver for the
>>> Linn Ethernet Packet Sniffer H/W modules.
>>>
>>> The split between a core and backend modules allows software-only
>>> implementations to be added for platforms where no H/W support
>>> is available.
>>>
>>> Based on 3.19-rc5
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stathis Voukelatos <stathis.voukelatos@linn.co.uk>
>> Please have a look at packet sockets, they offer already all the
>> functionality (if not more) your driver interface to the user space
>> resembles, are transparent to the underlying hardware, and easily
>> can cope with 100Mbit.
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, you are effectively introducing a
>> parallel API *next* to packet sockets to user space that we have to
>> maintain forever ...
>>
>> Thanks !
>
> Hello Daniel. Thank you for your feedback.
> Packet sockets could also be used for the driver interface to
> user space, however I think that both approaches would require the same
> amount of maintenance. We need to maintain a protocol consisting of
> a set of messages or commands that user space can use to communicate
> with the driver in order to configure the H/W and retrieve results.
> We could use packet sockets to send those messages too, but I thought
> netlink already provides a message exchange framework that we could
> make use of.
When using packet sockets and your driver as a backend feeding them,
users can see that there's an extra capturing/monitoring netdev present,
all libpcap-based tools such as tcpdump et al would work out of the box
w/o adapting any code, and as an admin you can also see what users/tools
are making of use of the device through packet sockets. I couldn't parse
the exact motivation from the commit message of why avoiding all this is
better?
Thanks,
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-26 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-23 10:07 Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-26 11:23 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 10:51 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-26 10:16 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 10:53 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-23 11:20 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-26 9:49 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 10:10 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2015-01-27 11:15 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 14:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-27 17:22 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 18:12 ` James Hogan
2015-01-26 11:05 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-24 21:37 ` Joe Perches
2015-01-26 11:11 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 19:39 ` Joe Perches
2015-01-27 9:52 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 22:30 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-01-27 10:51 ` Stathis Voukelatos
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