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From: Stathis Voukelatos <stathis.voukelatos@linn.co.uk>
To: Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@redhat.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"abrestic@chromium.org" <abrestic@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Linn Ethernet Packet Sniffer driver
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:15:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C7736C.8090704@linn.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54C612A5.2000208@redhat.com>
Hi Daniel,
On 26/01/15 10:10, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> Hello Daniel. Thank you for your feedback.
>> Packet sockets could also be used for the driver interface to
>> user space, however I think that both approaches would require the same
>> amount of maintenance. We need to maintain a protocol consisting of
>> a set of messages or commands that user space can use to communicate
>> with the driver in order to configure the H/W and retrieve results.
>> We could use packet sockets to send those messages too, but I thought
>> netlink already provides a message exchange framework that we could
>> make use of.
>
> When using packet sockets and your driver as a backend feeding them,
> users can see that there's an extra capturing/monitoring netdev present,
> all libpcap-based tools such as tcpdump et al would work out of the box
> w/o adapting any code, and as an admin you can also see what users/tools
> are making of use of the device through packet sockets. I couldn't parse
> the exact motivation from the commit message of why avoiding all this is
> better?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
Just wanted to clarify some implementation details for your approach.
- The driver would need to create and register two net_device instances.
One for sniffing Ethernet TX packets and one for RX.
- Would the control interface for the sniffer in that case need to be
through private socket ioctls (ie SIOCDEVPRIVATE + x ioctl ids)?
- For each ethernet packet that matches the command string the sniffer
returns some data bytes and optionally a timestamp (depending on the
command string). Would a new protocol need to be added in
<linux/if_ether.h> in order to deliver that data to user space through
a packet socket?
Thanks,
Stathis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-27 11:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-23 10:07 Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-26 11:23 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 10:51 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-26 10:16 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-27 10:53 ` Mark Rutland
2015-01-23 11:20 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-26 9:49 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 10:10 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-27 11:15 ` Stathis Voukelatos [this message]
2015-01-27 14:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-01-27 17:22 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-23 18:12 ` James Hogan
2015-01-26 11:05 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-24 21:37 ` Joe Perches
2015-01-26 11:11 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 19:39 ` Joe Perches
2015-01-27 9:52 ` Stathis Voukelatos
2015-01-26 22:30 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-01-27 10:51 ` Stathis Voukelatos
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