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From: "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"alan@linux.intel.com" <alan@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Len.Brown@intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Bypass legacy PIC and PIT on ACPI hardware reduced platform
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 19:13:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F83A61.3090906@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150304201102.GA6530@gmail.com>
On 2015/3/5 4:11, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/4/2015 1:50 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 12:43:08AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Using 'acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware' flag outside the ACPI code
>>>>> is a mistake.
>>>>
>>>> ideally, the presence of that flag in the firmware table will clear/set more global settings,
>>>> for example, having that flag should cause the 8042 input code to not probe for the 8042.
>>>>
>>>> for interrupts, there really ought to be a "apic first/only" mode, which is then used on
>>>> all modern systems (not just hw reduced).
>>>
>>> Do we need some sort of platform-specific querying interfaces now too,
>>> similar to cpu_has()? I.e., platform_has()...
>>>
>>> if (platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_REDUCED_HW))
>>> do stuff..
>>
>> more like
>>
>> platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_PIT)
>>
>> etc, one for each legacy io item
>
> Precisely. The main problem is the generic, 'lumps everything
> together' nature of the acpi_gbl_reduced_hardware flag.
>
> (Like the big kernel lock lumped together all sorts of locking rules
> and semantics.)
>
> Properly split out, feature-ish or driver-ish interfaces for PIT and
> other legacy details are the proper approach to 'turn them off'.
>
> - x86_platform is a function pointer driven, driver-ish interface.
>
> - platform_has(X86_PLATFORM_IT) is a flag driven, feature-flag-ish
> interface.
>
> Both are fine - for something as separate as the PIT (or the PIC) it
> might make more sense to go towards a 'driver' interface though, as
> modern drivers are (and will be) much different from the legacy PIT.
>
> Whichever method is used, low level platforms can just switch them
> on/off in their enumeration/detection routines, while the generic code
> will have them enabled by default.
Whichever method is used, we will face a problem how to determine PIT
exists or not.
When we enabled Bay Trail-T platform at the beginning, we were trying to
make the code as generic as possible, and it works properly up to now.
So we don't have a SUBARCH like X86_SUBARCH_INTEL_MID to use the
platform specific functions. And for now I'm not quite sure it's a good
idea to create one.
If we make it as a flag driven, I don't know there is a flag in firmware
better than ACPI HW reduced flag(Of course it's not good enough to cover
all the cases). Or if we want to use platform info to turn on/off this
flag, we'll have to maintain a platform list, which may be longer and
more complicated than worth doing that.
Thanks,
-Aubrey
>
>> so we can clear it on hw reduced, but also in other cases. hw
>> reduced is one way, but I'd be surprised if there weren't other ways
>> (like quirks) where we'd want to do the same things
>
> Exactly. The key step is the proper, clean separation out of hardware
> interfaces.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-05 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-04 3:23 Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 5:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 5:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 5:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 6:04 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-04 8:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-03-04 9:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-04 14:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 14:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-04 14:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 20:21 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-04 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-05 11:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-05 16:05 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-04 14:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2015-03-04 20:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05 11:13 ` Li, Aubrey [this message]
2015-03-05 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05 12:42 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-05 16:06 ` Alan Cox
2015-03-09 23:26 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-10 8:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-11 4:14 ` Li, Aubrey
2015-03-04 20:18 ` Alan Cox
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