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From: Tom Lendacky <>
To: Baoquan He <>, Robin Murphy <>,
	Christoph Hellwig <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] dma-pool: allow user to disable atomic pool
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 15:52:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210805065410.GA2051@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>

On 8/5/21 1:54 AM, Baoquan He wrote:
> On 06/24/21 at 11:47am, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2021-06-24 10:29, Baoquan He wrote:
>>> On 06/24/21 at 08:40am, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> So reduce the amount allocated.  But the pool is needed for proper
>>>> operation on systems with memory encryption.  And please add the right
>>>> maintainer or at least mailing list for the code you're touching next
>>>> time.
>>> Oh, I thoutht it's memory issue only, should have run
>>> ./scripts/ sorry.
>>> About reducing the amount allocated, it may not help. Because on x86_64,
>>> kdump kernel doesn't put any page of memory into buddy allocator of DMA
>>> zone. Means it will defenitely OOM for atomic_pool_dma initialization.
>>> Wondering in which case or on which device the atomic pool is needed on
>>> AMD system with mem encrytion enabled. As we can see, the OOM will
>>> happen too in kdump kernel on Intel system, even though it's not
>>> necessary.
> Sorry for very late response, and thank both for your comments.
>> Hmm, I think the Kconfig reshuffle has actually left a slight wrinkle here.
>> For DMA_DIRECT_REMAP=y we can assume an atomic pool is always needed, since
>> that was the original behaviour anyway. However the implications of
>> AMD_MEM_ENCRYPT=y are different - even if support is enabled, it still
>> should only be relevant if mem_encrypt_active(), so it probably does make
>> sense to have an additional runtime gate on that.
>> From a quick scan, use of dma_alloc_from_pool() already depends on
>> force_dma_unencrypted() so that's probably fine already, but I think we'd
>> need a bit of extra protection around dma_free_from_pool() to prevent
>> gen_pool_has_addr() dereferencing NULL if the pools are uninitialised, even
>> with your proposed patch as it is. Presumably nothing actually called
>> dma_direct_free() when you tested this?
> Yes, enforcing the conditional check of force_dma_unencrypted() around
> dma_free_from_pool sounds reasonable, just as we have done in
> dma_alloc_from_pool().
> I have tested this patchset on normal x86_64 systems and one amd system
> with SME support, disabling atomic pool can fix the issue that there's no
> managed pages in dma zone then requesting page from dma zone will cause
> allocation failure. And even disabling atomic pool in 1st kernel didn't
> cause any problem on one AMD EPYC system which supports SME. I am not
> expert of DMA area, wondering how atomic pool is supposed to do in
> SME/SEV system. 

I think the atomic pool is used by the NVMe driver. My understanding is
that driver will do a dma_alloc_coherent() from interrupt context, so it
needs to use GFP_ATOMIC. The pool was created because dma_alloc_coherent()
would perform a set_memory_decrypted() call, which can sleep. The pool
eliminates that issue (David can correct me if I got that wrong).


> Besides, even though atomic pool is disabled, slub page for allocation
> of dma-kmalloc also triggers page allocation failure. So I change to
> take another way to fix them, please check v2 post. The atomic pool
> disabling an be a good to have change.
> Thanks
> Baoquan

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-24  5:20 Baoquan He
2021-06-24  5:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: kernel-parameters: Update to reflect the current default size of " Baoquan He
2021-06-24  5:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] dma-pool: allow user to disable " Baoquan He
2021-06-24  7:40 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-24  9:29   ` Baoquan He
2021-06-24 10:47     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-24 12:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-05  6:54       ` Baoquan He
2021-08-10 20:52         ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2021-08-11  2:23           ` Baoquan He
2021-08-11 13:46             ` Tom Lendacky
2021-08-11  5:52           ` Christoph Hellwig

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