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From: Casey Schaufler <>
To: Al Viro <>,
	"Ahmed S. Darwish" <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Version 9 (2.6.24-rc1) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
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--- Al Viro <> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:01:12AM +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> > The problem here (As discussed in private mails) is that the for loop 
> > assumes that the beginning of given user-space buffer is the beginning
> > of a rule. This leads to situations where the rule becomes "ecret 20",
> > or "cret 20" instead of "Secret 20". Big input buffers/files leads 
> > smack to recieve a rule like "Secret 20" in fragmented chunks like:
> > 
> > write("<lots of rules before ours>\nSec", ..)
> > write("r", 1, ..)
> > write("et 20\n<remaing rules after ours>", ..)
> > 
> > Parsing a rule in such tough conditions in _kernel space_ is very
> > hard. I began to feel that it will be much easier if we do the parsing 
> > in a userspace utility and let smack accept only small buffers (80 char). 
> For crying out louf, all it takes is a finite state machine...  BTW, folks,
> your parser *and* input language suck.  Really.  Silently allowing noise
> is Dumb(tm).

I was planning to patient Dumb, but if you've already got a copywrite
on it I'll have to go a different route. Carp.

> Please, write the grammar down and _follow_ _it_.

Good idea. I'll do it.

>  ...
> Come on, people, this is ridiculous - why bother reinventing the wheels for
> the stuff that belongs to exercises halfway through any self-respecting
> introductory textbook?  Scary parser, my arse...

That code is in need of cleansing. With bleach. Yes, it's on my list.
I managed to get my virtual disk back, found how I messed up on v9,
and now have a (long) list of improvements and fixes.

No rest for the wicked.

Casey Schaufler

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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-25  3:46 Casey Schaufler
2007-10-25 15:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-25 18:58   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-26 20:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-27  3:00 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-10-27 19:20   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-27  9:01 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2007-10-27 23:47   ` Al Viro
2007-10-28  5:41     ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-10-28 12:46     ` Ahmed S. Darwish

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