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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel\@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chunyan Zhang <zhang.chunyan@linaro.org>,
	Kaixu Xia <kaixu.xia@linaro.org>,
	norbert.schulz@intel.com, peter.lachner@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] coresight-stm: adding driver for CoreSight STM component
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:04:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87384lcio3.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANLsYkzK_LX4OQJOUtcr0EksRUKPueNOXrw2C+qTJWov0sQPFA@mail.gmail.com>

Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org> writes:

> On 30 March 2015 at 08:04, Alexander Shishkin
> <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> As it looks from the above snippet, you're using a stream of DATA
>> packets for user's payload. I also noticed that you use an ioctl to
>> trigger timestamps.
>
> Right, the ioctl() conveys user space intentions on that channel.
> Options are kept and applied on every packet for as long as the
> channel is open.

So this means that, for example, if you enable timestamps on a channel,
then every single data packet on that channel will be timestamped, which
is a lot of timestamps. Normally, you would only be interested in the
timestamp on the first data packet in the message (or frame or however
we decide to call it). This is one of the reasons why I'm suggesting a
common framing scheme or a "protocol".

>> Now, in the STP protocol there are, for example, marked data packets
>> that can be used to mark beginning of a higher-level message,
>> timestamped data packets that can be used to mean the same thing and
>> FLAG packets to mark message boundaries.
>
> Same on my side, I simply haven't included them yet.  I'll do so in my
> next iteration.
>
>>
>> In my Intel TH code, I'm using D*TS packet for the beginning of a
>> message (or "frame") and FLAG packet for the the end of a message.
>>
>> So my question is, is there any specific STP framing pattern that you
>> use with Coresight STM or should we perhaps figure out a generic framing
>> pattern and make it part of the stm class as well?
>
> Now specific pattern... Sending a packet consists of MARK, DATA, FLAG.

Is this pattern mandated by a decoder that you use or is there any other
reason why it's exactly that?

>>
>> For example, we can replace stm's .write callback with something like
>>
>>     int (*packet)(struct stm_data *data,
>>                   unsigned int type,    /* data, flag, trig etc */
>>                   unsigned int options, /* timestamped, marked */
>>                   u64 payload);
>>
>> and let the stm core do the "framing", which, then, will be common and
>> consistent across different architectures/stm implementations.
>
> I think the framing should be left to individual drivers.  It's only a
> matter of time before we get a weird device that doesn't play well
> with others, forcing to carry the ugliness in the STM core rather than
> the driver.

Not necessarily. If a device doesn't support one type of packet or the
other, it will be up to them to work around that in the above .packet
callback.

As for the devices that don't play well, there's a question of how much
one can violate the spec and still call oneself compliant.

> And isn't carrying "options" redundant?  Using "container_of" on the
> "data" field one can get back to the driver specific structure, which
> is definitely a better place to keep that information.  I think the
> general structure looks good right now, we simply need to find a way
> to get rid of the ioctls.

No, what I mean by options here is a property of each individual packet,
not the whole channel. For example, if I want the underlying driver to
send a marked data packet, I do

     stm_data->packet(stm_data, STP_PACKET_D8, STP_OPTION_MARKED, payload);

or if I want to send a timestamped flag, I do

     stm_data->packet(stm_data, STP_PACKET_FLAG, STP_OPTION_TS, 0);

Like I said above, there seems little to be gained from enabling
timestamps for all packets in one channel.

> Regarding the same "options", how did you plan on getting those from user space?

Ideally, if we have a framing convension, we don't need to get it from
userspace at all, all userspace should care about is writing data to the
character device and we wrap it up and feed it to the underlying driver.

Regards,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-27 23:04 [PATCH 0/5] coresight: next Mathieu Poirier
2015-02-27 23:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] coresight: making cpu index lookup arm64 compliant Mathieu Poirier
2015-02-27 23:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] coresight: fixing compilation warnings picked up by 64bit compiler Mathieu Poirier
2015-02-27 23:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] coresight: Adding coresight support for arm64 architecture Mathieu Poirier
2015-02-27 23:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] coresight-stm: adding driver for CoreSight STM component Mathieu Poirier
2015-03-07 12:27   ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-03-30 14:04   ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-03-30 15:48     ` Mathieu Poirier
2015-03-31 15:04       ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2015-04-01 14:27         ` Mathieu Poirier
2015-04-01 14:28           ` Mathieu Poirier
2015-02-27 23:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] coresight-stm: Bindings for System Trace Macrocell Mathieu Poirier
2015-03-19 22:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] coresight: next Mathieu Poirier
2015-03-19 22:24   ` Greg KH

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