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From: Keir Fraser <keir@xensource.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	<virtualization@lists.osdl.org>, <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Ian Pratt <ian.pratt@xensource.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Hand <steven.hand@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:09:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C1FB336B.98D6%keir@xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D55C4D.1060807@goop.org>

On 16/2/07 07:25, "Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

>> Oh, so that's why it doesn't break when CONFIG_PREEMPT=y.  In which case
>> that preempt_disable() I spotted is wrong-and-unneeded.
>> 
>> Why doesn't Xen work with preemption??
> 
> I've forgotten the details.  Ian?  Keir?  Steven?  Maybe it can be done.

It breaks guest save/restore for us currently because threads can be
sleeping with machine addresses in local storage (registers, stack). There
are a few ways to achieve an acceptable solution:

 1. Put processes in the freezer when we suspend. This should avoid any
thread being in a critical section with machine addresses in its hand. We
haven't yet investigated the performance impact of freezing processes,
particularly on the downtime of live relocation.

 2. Allow CONFIG_PREEMPT to be compiled in, but disable it at runtime. We
could do this by, for example, reserving a bit in preempt_count() so that
most preemption checks do not touch any more cache lines. I guess it would
need a bit of fixing up (e.g., so that in_atomic() would not be always
asserted). Even better for us would be to allow switching between
involuntary and voluntary preemption at runtime. It looks as though the hook
points for these two techniques are not usually compiled in at the same
time, however.

 -- Keir


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-16 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-16  2:24 [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 01/21] Xen-paravirt: Fix typo in sync_constant_test_bit()s name Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 02/21] Xen-paravirt: ignore vgacon if hardware not present Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 03/21] Xen-paravirt: Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 04/21] Xen-paravirt: =================================================================== Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  9:12   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 17:32     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 05/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 06/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 07/21] Xen-paravirt: remove ctor for pgd cache Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  8:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-02-16  9:19     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16 17:19       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 23:33     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 08/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 09/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to select PGD allocation alignment Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 10/21] Xen-paravirt: add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:55     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:16   ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-22 20:21     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:23     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 11/21] Xen-paravirt: Add apply_to_page_range() which applies a function to a pte range Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:31     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 12/21] Xen-paravirt: Allocate and free vmalloc areas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:43   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:08     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:24       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:49           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  9:18           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 11:10             ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 11:34               ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 16:46             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:10               ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:12                 ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:27                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 19:06                     ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:19                       ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:26                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:29                           ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 23:41                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:26                 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-02-16  7:48         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 13/21] Xen-paravirt: Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:06   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:14   ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  7:04     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:52       ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  8:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  8:37           ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16 10:49             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:25       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 10:09         ` Keir Fraser [this message]
2007-02-16 10:19           ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 10:44             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17  4:04             ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16  6:15   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  7:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:14       ` Ian Campbell
2007-02-16  8:24         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:31           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 13:53       ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2007-02-18 11:32     ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 16/21] Xen-paravirt: Core Xen implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 17/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual console driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:48   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 18/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen grant table support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:58     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 19/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 20/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 21/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual network " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:59 ` [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:20   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:48       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:59         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 22:10           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17 13:51           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-21 18:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-21 18:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-21 20:02               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  5:05         ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16 23:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  4:58   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found] <20070213221729.772002682@goop.org>
     [not found] ` <20070213221830.542511707@goop.org>
2007-02-13 22:53   ` [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Dan Hecht
2007-02-13 23:29     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-13 23:58       ` Dan Hecht

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