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From: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Joao Moreira <joao@overdrivepizza.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	hjl.tools@gmail.com, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/6] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:56:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABCJKuf-wouSCh4u43GPQHPPgG=mqOGboSoHPQRfmgQSBkFrMg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220214222550.GB23216@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 2:25 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 01:38:18PM -0800, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> > I'm fine with adding a trap mode that's used by default, but having
> > more helpful diagnostics when something fails is useful even in
> > production systems in my experience. This change results in a vmlinux
> > that's another 0.92% smaller.
>
> You can easily have the exception generate a nice warning, you can even
> have it continue. You really don't need a call for that.

Sure, but wouldn't that require us to generate something like
__bug_table, so we know where the CFI specific traps are?

> > In this case the function has two indirect calls and Clang seems to
> > prefer to emit just one ud2.
>
> That will not allow you to recover from the exception. UD2 is not an
> unconditional fail. It should have an out-going edge in this case too.

Yes, CFI failures are not recoverable in that code. In fact, LLVM
assumes that the llvm.trap intrinsic (i.e. ud2) never returns, but I
suppose we could just use an int3 instead. I assume that's sufficient
to stop speculation?

> Also, you really should add a CS prefix to the retpoline thunk call if
> you insist on using r11 (or any of the higher regs).

I actually didn't touch the retpoline thunk call, that's exactly the
code Clang normally generates.

> > How would you like to deal with the 4-byte hashes in objtool? We
> > either need to annotate all function symbols in the kernel, or we need
> > a way to distinguish the hashes from random instructions, so we can
> > also have functions that don't have a type hash.
>
> Easiest would be to create a special section with all the hash offsets
> in I suppose. A bit like -mfentry-section=name.

OK, I'll take a look. With 64-bit hashes I was planning to use a known
prefix, but that's not really an option with a 32-bit hash.

Sami

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-22 17:03 [RFC][PATCH 0/6] x86: Kernel IBT beginnings Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] x86: Annotate _THIS_IP_ Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-23 13:53   ` Mark Rutland
2021-11-23 14:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 18:18       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] x86: Base IBT bits Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-08 23:32   ` Kees Cook
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] x86: Add ENDBR to IRET-to-Self Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 18:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-08 23:33     ` Kees Cook
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] objtool: Read the _THIS_IP_ hints Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] x86: Sprinkle ENDBR dust Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-23 14:00   ` Mark Rutland
2021-11-23 14:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-08 23:38     ` Kees Cook
2021-11-22 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] objtool: Add IBT validation / fixups Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-24 19:30   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-08 23:43     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-09  5:09       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-02-09 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-09 11:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-12-24  2:05   ` joao
2022-02-08 23:42     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-09  2:21       ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-09  4:05         ` Kees Cook
2022-02-09  5:18           ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-11 13:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-14 21:38               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-02-14 22:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 16:56                   ` Sami Tolvanen [this message]
2022-02-15 20:03                     ` Kees Cook
2022-02-15 21:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 23:05                         ` Kees Cook
2022-02-15 23:38                           ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-16 12:24                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 20:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-15 22:45               ` Joao Moreira
2022-02-16  0:57               ` Andrew Cooper
2022-03-02  3:06               ` Peter Collingbourne
2022-03-02  3:32                 ` Joao Moreira
2022-06-08 17:53                 ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2022-06-09  0:05                   ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-11-23  7:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] x86: Kernel IBT beginnings Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-23  9:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-08 23:48 ` Kees Cook
2022-02-09  0:09 ` Nick Desaulniers

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